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Something to ponder for you Zombie Hunters
bullit:
jt...
Respect your opinion, but having dealt with enough Med Mal cases as an expert witness over the years, I put nothing past attorneys at least "trying". Anyway, I thought the topic interesting because we live in a illogical world and we CHP holders need to understand and be prepared for even the potentially "insane" argument against us. It is a court of law (which sadly is dynamic these days i.e. Prop 8 reversal in Kalifornia yesterday), not a court of justice.
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: bullit on February 08, 2012, 10:18:32 AM ---jt...
Respect your opinion, but having dealt with enough Med Mal cases as an expert witness over the years, I put nothing past attorneys at least "trying". Anyway, I thought the topic interesting because we live in a illogical world and we CHP holders need to understand and be prepared for even the potentially "insane" argument against us. It is a court of law (which sadly is dynamic these days i.e. Prop 8 reversal in Kalifornia yesterday), not a court of justice.
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I don't doubt that an attorney will completely deconstruct your life and leave no stone unturned. As jt said, if the prosecutor is brilliant and your attorney has not done their job during jury selection, then who knows what they might try to convince your "peers" of. Regardless, I feel fairly confident that my defense, though taxing and costly, would be successful.
On an unrelated note (you brought it up, I didn't), the repeal of proposition 8 is not a good example of a lack of justice if that is what you are inferring...IMHO. This is a legal battle that will be lost by the conservatives and it serves no purpose other than to help the Democrats by driving people away from the Republican, or more conservative candidates.
Fly
bullit:
Fly....semantics....
The "people" spoke when they passed Prop 8. The 9th CIRCUS (yes, I mean CIRCUS) and their 3 radicals who heard the "legal battle/challenge/case" what have you, then disregarded/pooped on/overturned/repealed the WILL and VOTE of the majority. I'd say that justice has not been served, but a law "created". IMHO.....
Wesley D:
--- Quote from: bullit on February 09, 2012, 06:45:23 AM ---Fly....semantics....
The "people" spoke when they passed Prop 8. The 9th CIRCUS (yes, I mean CIRCUS) and their 3 radicals who heard the "legal battle/challenge/case" what have you, then disregarded/pooped on/overturned/repealed the WILL and VOTE of the majority. I'd say that justice has not been served, but a law "created". IMHO.....
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Careful bullit. I'm not sure you want to live in a country where the WILL and VOTE of majority become unchallengeable law. Even though the WILL and VOTE of the "people" on this issue favor your position, I'd caution you to using majority rule to defend your position. That sounds frighteningly like a democracy to me. We're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic that protects individual rights. If the WILL and VOTE of the majority was to make private firearms ownership illegal, would you object to a circuit court overturning that proposition - even though it was the WILL of the "people"? Since you have the moral high ground on your issue, I'd suggest arguing your position from individual rights and morality rather than setting a dangerous precedent of arguing from a position advocating mob rule. Just my $0.02.
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OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: Wesley D on February 09, 2012, 08:35:35 AM ---Careful bullit. I'm not sure you want to live in a country where the WILL and VOTE of majority become unchallengeable law. Even though the WILL and VOTE of the "people" on this issue favor your position, I'd caution you to using majority rule to defend your position. That sounds frighteningly like a democracy to me. We're not a democracy, we're a constitutional republic that protects individual rights. If the WILL and VOTE of the majority was to make private firearms ownership illegal, would you object to a circuit court overturning that proposition - even though it was the WILL of the "people"? Since you have the moral high ground on your issue, I'd suggest arguing your position from individual rights and morality rather than setting a dangerous precedent of arguing from a position advocating mob rule. Just my $0.02.
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Thank you Wesley D. Very eloquently stated. It does not matter what the popular vote is if the people's opinion is unconstitutional.
Fly
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