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ranger04:
Jay,
Where should our fight start is the question of the day. I believe that in order for us to change the public perception of gun owners the battle needs to be fought on all fronts. Getting laws changed will only serve our purpose in a postive way. I believe this to be the most important aspect becasue when we have the law(s) on our side then the public has to tend to respect that law. Hey they elected the law makers also. Education of the public that gun owners are not that much diffrent from the regular folks. We just take our constitution a tad bit more serious. The publics perception of the victim mentality is going to be hard to change, the public is indoctrinated from a very young age that it is acceptable to be the victim, public sympathy and all of that baloney.We need to expound on those cases where the intended victim turned the tables on the criminal. Publicize those cases where an armed citizen prevented a crime or stopped a crime. Jeanne Asman in the church shooting comes to mind. Public awareness of these cases will help. But this will require influnece in the media, If it bleeds it leads, lets make sure it is the criminal that bleeds. We need to make being a criminal a very dangerous occupation, both from the law enforcement aspect as well as the intended victim aspect. I kinda went on a rant here.. sorry.
Jay:
Ranger, don't apologize, rant away! That's what these forums are here for. I know this subject is beating a dead horse for some, but as our organization is growing, so is the number of members that are new to the fight. I know my kids love reading these forums, and what they are learning here they are talking with their friends about. I also know of some older members here that are new to our fight, so these discussions are great for them, too.
I agree that the fight must be fought on all fronts, and that there is no easy answer as to where we concentrate our efforts. Like you said, getting laws changed will only serve us in a positive way, and the public has to tend to respect that law, but your statement that the public elected the lawmakers has a flip side to it.. since they elected the lawmakers, if we concentrated our efforts on changing their opinions, wouldn't the lawmakers they elect be more inclined to follow their way of thinking? Again, you are 100% correct in that changing perceptions will be a long and difficult battle, and that the media plays a huge part in that. So, how do we influence the media? Is that even possible?
--- Quote from: ranger04 on February 12, 2009, 10:09:20 AM ---We need to make being a criminal a very dangerous occupation, both from the law enforcement aspect as well as the intended victim aspect.
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That right there is the quote of the day!
FreedomOne:
Thanks for some great feedback! It's good to see that there are more of us out there that realize we are already legal to carry, by a law already on the books. This was before the ccw or any of the other "illegal" laws that were added. Shouldn't there be a lawyer willing to take this up with Nebraska government, and point out the error of it's ways? And how does Omaha and/or Lincoln get away with adding laws that are in contradiction to already existing laws, and enforce them? Any ideas or thoughts on what could/should be done to correct these mistakes? Should we organize, form a group and hire a lawyer? Should we form a group and protest these illegal laws at the legislature level? We can talk all we want to. I for one, would like to do something about it. One person alone might not be able to afford a lawyer, but perhaps a large group of us could? Just a thought. Action needs to be taken or we can watch our rights go right out the window! Or have they already? It's not too late if we act now!
ranger04:
I was talking with my CCW trainer this week and he thought that hiring a lawyer as a group and filing a suit against one city would cause the others to fold pretty quickly. I tend to agree. Chris said there is something in the works, maybe we should get two things in the works. I think we should find an attorney that will take up our cause, pool some funds and get the ball rolling. My question is would a law suit tie up the legislature acting on this? Would they wait and see what the courts decide or would they push this thru to prevent more suits being filed?
Wymore Wrangler:
Beatrice is meeting tonight to vote on their city ordiance, hopefully we will have one less to worry about, fear of lawsuits does make a big wave also...
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