Ammunition & Hand Loading > Cartridge and Shotshell reloading
Hand gun reloading, copper plated bullets
bk09:
Ya I am trying to get rid of my bullseye now, too dirty for me and has limited uses.
skydve76:
Brad give me your bullseye :) I love it.
Dan, You are very safe reloader for sure! I use 4.5 grain with magnum primers in my 9mm, do you think I am pushing the limits? For my 1911 I was using 5 g with magnum primers, but have since gone with 4.5 g and standard primers. I dont nitice any difference but I dont shoot it much beyond 25 yards. My wife and I still pretty new to handguns to our ability to use the gun more affects accuracy than the load at this point.
I found with my scale a scoop can range between 4.3 and 4.7 but I know some variance comes from the scale itself because I can turn it off and on and get .2 grain flucations after taring each time. Its a Hornady digital scale. Not impressed with that. Measuring .1 gain differences with my beam scale is impossible for me, my Hearstone home isnt level enough.
bk09:
--- Quote from: skydve76 on March 10, 2012, 11:34:37 PM ---Brad give me your bullseye :) I love it.
Dan, You are very safe reloader for sure! I use 4.5 grain with magnum primers in my 9mm, do you think I am pushing the limits? For my 1911 I was using 5 g with magnum primers, but have since gone with 4.5 g and standard primers. I dont nitice any difference but I dont shoot it much beyond 25 yards. My wife and I still pretty new to handguns to our ability to use the gun more affects accuracy than the load at this point.
I found with my scale a scoop can range between 4.3 and 4.7 but I know some variance comes from the scale itself because I can turn it off and on and get .2 grain flucations after taring each time. Its a Hornady digital scale. Not impressed with that. Measuring .1 gain differences with my beam scale is impossible for me, my Hearstone home isnt level enough.
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RCBS Chargemaster 1500 dispenser/scale combo. Best investment I ever made (besides the AR that I usually feed with it)
unfy:
--- Quote from: bradkoll on March 10, 2012, 12:57:12 PM --- Now I have several hundred 9mm I am trying to shoot off that contain 5.8gr of Bullseye behind 115gr Rainier HP, don't believe any cases have broke yet, but they sure do fling out of that hi-point (when it works).
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You're 26% outside of my reloading books specs (1.2gr over max).
Break it down and don't use it. You're just asking for a ruined weapon or trip to emergency room.
Dan W:
--- Quote from: skydve76 on March 10, 2012, 11:34:37 PM ---Dan, You are very safe reloader for sure! I use 4.5 grain with magnum primers in my 9mm, do you think I am pushing the limits?
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No, but you are right at max with Magnum primers. My point is that fast powders like Bullseye can and will go over safe pressures with very little warning at the upper limits, especially in a small case like the 9mm
It ought to be instructive to realize that 4.7gr is max in 9mm, while 4.8gr is max for a bullet twice the weight in 45ACP. It should make one wonder just why the max is so low in 9mm.
A little investigation on the interwebz reveals that a large group of hand loaders have had problems with near max loads of Bullseye in 9mm. Assuming max is 4.7gr, then 5.4 to 5.8 grains is flat out dangerous. All it may take is one bullet to set back in the case to turn a firearm into a grenade.
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