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SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« on: February 28, 2012, 10:20:38 PM »
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm/SD_Lawmakers_Approve_Concealed_Weapons_Carry_Bill/?Id=128393

PIERRE, SD - The South Dakota Legislature has given final approval to a measure allowing people to carry concealed weapons without a permit as long as they have a driver's license and otherwise meet state standards for owning guns.

The Senate voted 22-11 to pass the bill, which was approved earlier by the House. It will become law if signed by Gov. Dennis Daugaard.


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Now is it time we start working on this here in Nebraska?  If not now, when?
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2012, 10:30:26 PM »
I'll have to look deeper into this later, but it says it will allow residents of SD to carry w/o a permit.  Are NR's still required to have a permit recognized by SD?

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2012, 11:02:28 PM »
Well, what about all the poor people that cant afford a drivers license?  To me it seems like this law is promoting class warfare.  This law needs to be struck down by the ACLU as an attack on underpriveleged people, aliens that cannot legally get a drivers license, blind people, people that cannot drive a vehicle because they have no hands, elderly people that can no longer pass a drivers license test, etc.

THIS LAW IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND MUST BE ABOLISHED NOW!


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Just kidding people.  Its called sarcasm...

I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.  I carry a lot of ammo because I cant run very fast.

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 11:21:59 AM »
Well, what about all the poor people that cant afford a drivers license?  To me it seems like this law is promoting class warfare.  This law needs to be struck down by the ACLU as an attack on underpriveleged people, aliens that cannot legally get a drivers license, blind people, people that cannot drive a vehicle because they have no hands, elderly people that can no longer pass a drivers license test, etc.

THIS LAW IS TOTALLY ILLEGAL AND MUST BE ABOLISHED NOW!


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Just kidding people.  Its called sarcasm...



I get that you are kidding but what about people that don't drive? Seems they need to have an alternate acceptable form of ID as well.

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 02:29:40 PM »
http://www.keloland.com/NewsDetail6162.cfm/SD_Lawmakers_Approve_Concealed_Weapons_Carry_Bill/?Id=128393

PIERRE, SD - The South Dakota Legislature has given final approval to a measure allowing people to carry concealed weapons without a permit as long as they have a driver's license and otherwise meet state standards for owning guns.

The Senate voted 22-11 to pass the bill, which was approved earlier by the House. It will become law if signed by Gov. Dennis Daugaard.
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Now is it time we start working on this here in Nebraska?  If not now, when?

I am all for it- I know in another thread several people thought NFOA should have other priorities for this year. I won't argue, but I think this trend (Constitutional Carry) is a wonderful development that appears to be gaining momentum nation-wide.
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 06:35:50 AM »
Oklahoma's House passed an Open Carry bill Tuesday.  The Governor intends to sign if their Senate passes it.  The bill passed both houses a couple of years ago, but the Dem Gov Brad Henry vetoed it

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 08:42:03 AM »
Yes, yes.  Very interested.  The momentum is there If there is the resources.  Sometimes you have to thow a lot of mud against the wall and see what sticks.
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2012, 05:14:06 AM »
I remember when I was stationed at Ellsworth AFB, in SD, all it took me was mailing in the $5 and a few days later, got my first CWP.  Now they won't even need that. 

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2012, 08:18:25 AM »
Nebraska has had this since 1988. No one in power will admit it though!
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2012, 10:47:07 PM »
Gunscribe is correct, in that Art. I-1 as amended into the State Constitution by the People in 1988 says so, but it took less than a year for the Nebraska Supremes to say it was not so..... And the Law is what the Old Boy Network sez it is.
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2012, 02:33:27 PM »
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-03-05/drivers-license-gun-permits/53391932/1

In part: "States that have been or are considering bills in current legislative sessions include Colorado, Iowa, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota and Virgina, according to the NRA."

Two thoughts:

1) RHODE ISLAND!?! Seriously?

2) As I said earlier this appears to be gaining steam nationally. If even half of these states implement Constitutional Carry it will put the total into double digits- same thing appears to be happening as with CCW, but a LOT faster. Hooray for Liberty!
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2012, 09:26:31 PM »
All that means is that bills have been proposed. It really means squat until it actually clears both state houses and the governor signs it. Which in New Hampshire the governor is a democrat and most likely will not sign it.

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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 06:17:19 AM »
All that means is that bills have been proposed. It really means squat until it actually clears both state houses and the governor signs it. Which in New Hampshire the governor is a democrat and most likely will not sign it.

That's precisely what they used to say about "permitted" concealed carry across the nation.  Do you remember what the map used to look like?


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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2012, 08:45:47 AM »
I've always loved that map.  Anti's are stunned (though they won't admit it) when they see all the pretty blue.  :)
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2012, 10:05:37 PM »
The easy of handgun carry and no state permit system, means that SD residents have to do a NICS check on every firearms purchase and be subject to NICS delays as they happen.

Few states accept a CCW permit from a state like SD with no training requirement.
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2012, 10:33:05 AM »
The easy of handgun carry and no state permit system, means that SD residents have to do a NICS check on every firearms purchase and be subject to NICS delays as they happen.

Few states accept a CCW permit from a state like SD with no training requirement.

That is a complication. The solution is to implement constitutional carry in more states! However you cut it less govt involvement (infringement) is good.

Also, couldn't we keep the purchaser permit system to 'expedite' purchases?
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Re: SD Lawmakers Approve "Permit-less" Concealed Weapons Carry Bill
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2012, 12:24:06 AM »
January 1 2011 Wyoming changed their laws that no Wy resident needs a permit to carry in Wy. but a permit is available to allow them to carry in states that honor the Wy permit.  The deal with the SD permit system is there is no background check or training for the permit, so it does not meet the training/background requirements of many state's reciprocity, not does it meet the federal requirement to bypass the NICS.
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