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Need legislation to allow carry on university campuses
Aldo:
http://www.easternecho.com/index.php/article/2012/04/guns_allowed_at_school
If it can happen in Michigan (see article in link), which is way more liberal than Nebraska, why can it not happen here in the land of the good life? I work at NU, and it will be a cold day in h-e-double hockey stick before the NU Board of Regents and NU President will, of their own accord, allow carry on campus for ccw permit holders. Unfortunately, the current university policies trump the current state legislation because the latter allows the university to do so via LB430. I as an individual faculty member cannot make it happen as my voice would get drowned out at a NU Board of Regents meeting (if even allowed to be on the agenda), but I am willing to work with NFOA, NRA, Students for Concealed Carry, etc to get the legislation in motion via the Senate route....preferably as a Senator's priority bill so that the Judiciary Committee can be bypassed since that committee's current composition will definitely NOT allow such bill to get to the general floor for discussion/vote.
DanClrk51:
--- Quote from: Aldo on April 09, 2012, 09:09:01 AM ---http://www.easternecho.com/index.php/article/2012/04/guns_allowed_at_school
If it can happen in Michigan (see article in link), which is way more liberal than Nebraska, why can it not happen here in the land of the good life? I work at NU, and it will be a cold day in h-e-double hockey stick before the NU Board of Regents and NU President will, of their own accord, allow carry on campus for ccw permit holders. Unfortunately, the current university policies trump the current state legislation because the latter allows the university to do so via LB430. I as an individual faculty member cannot make it happen as my voice would get drowned out at a NU Board of Regents meeting (if even allowed to be on the agenda), but I am willing to work with NFOA, NRA, Students for Concealed Carry, etc to get the legislation in motion via the Senate route....preferably as a Senator's priority bill so that the Judiciary Committee can be bypassed since that committee's current composition will definitely NOT allow such bill to get to the general floor for discussion/vote.
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It's not happening here because half of the GOP senators in the legislature are wusses and want to compromise with Democrats in the interest of goodwill or something like that (which is impossible). It seems our legislature has this fear of being labeled too extreme or something like that. After all it was them who held a special session and rushed to "close a loophole" to ban concealed carry on college/university campuses.....as if it was some major breach of security.
So Aldo it's actually already out of the NU board's jurisdiction, the legislature did their bidding and banned it by statute. Also a priority bill DOES NOT cause a bill to bypass a committee. It just puts the committee members under more pressure to address the issue somehow.
As far as a CCW on campus bill we already brought a weak version of that last year (to allow school staff and security guards to carry with CCW) and not even that was allowed through.
The only solution to this problem and to getting our other pro 2nd Amendment causes passed into law is to get 3-5 of the liberal members on the judiciary committee REMOVED and REPLACED on that committee. Preferably all 5 of course (Brad Ashford, Brenda Council, Amanda McGill, Steve Lathrop, Burke Harr). It is absolutely outrageous that in a conservative republican state as Nebraska with a legislature that is 33 Republicans, 15 Demoncrats and 1 liberal Independent (Ashford) that our judiciary committee is stacked 5-3 in the liberals' favor. Proportionally it should be the EXACT opposite considering we hold a 2-1 advantage in the legislative body.
I think the legislature keeps voting these bimbos back onto that committee because they are lawyers and have "experience in those matters". Well as Senator Avery demonstrated so well last week during debate on LB 807 a lawmaker doesn't need to know the current law in order to make laws.
We have to get an effort underway to get our conservative legislature to grow some balls and vote against nomination of Brad Ashford, Brenda Council, Amanda McGill, Steve Lathrop, and Burke Harr to the judiciary committee next year. It's time to reward them for their blatant disregard of Nebraskans to be safe in their homes and in their person's wherever they have a legal right to be.
bullit:
Aldo...you're fine with your double barrel stapler and picture of Mas Ayoob.
Aldo:
--- Quote from: bullit on April 09, 2012, 12:30:50 PM ---Aldo...you're fine with your double barrel stapler and picture of Mas Ayoob.
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Hah!!! I wish I could say that I felt safe that day last year when the SWAT team was going through the hallways of the dental college in Lincoln.....yes, stuck in my office with my staplers and photo of Mas :) Actually, it doesn't take much for me to think back about it and remember how pissed I was at that time...and to some degree still am.
wallace11bravo:
http://www.facebook.com/NebraskaStudentsForConcealedCarry
I am hoping to see an Advanced CCW bill put up in the next legislative session. The ACHP would require:
-some more training (20ish hours total)
-slightly more strict background check guidelines (recent alcohol related offenses)
PERHAPS cannot be on any prescription drugs that are intended to correct a social/mental issue
PERHAPS a requirement that the applicant has had a standard CHP for 2 years, or prior mil/LE/armed security experience, or is granted a waiver on the 2 year requirement by local sheriff.
PERHAPS a psychological screening, at the applicants expense AND/OR disclosure of individual's mental health records (Still waiting for a comprehensive report from a psychologist to see if such a thing would be fiscally feasible for most people, or even relevant/needed)
Now the good part: would essentially mean that the only signs or policies that an ACHP holder must obey are ones enforced with metal detectors/xray machines.
Could use a hand when I go to talk to Fulton and Pirsch on Thursday. I'll be discussing such a bill, and what it's chances would be, and if the latter 3 requirements would be needed to give the bill a decent chance (hopefully not).
For all those who will proceed to jump on me for overly strict issuance guidelines, feel free to accompany me to meet the senators, or become more active in NSCC. I have invested hundreds of dollars and hours into this, and so far it has been 85% me that is actually getting anything tangible done.
I have been studying what bills have passed and died in other states. This is what I have come up with for a bill that MIGHT be able to pass committee, and the floor, without a horrible struggle that goes on for half a decade with no success, and eats away at my soul.
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