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Need legislation to allow carry on university campuses
FarmerRick:
I'm all for getting carry approved on college campuses and I applaud your efforts in that quest, I just don't think we need even more restrictions on law-abiding citizens in order to get it.
How many "classes" of citizens are needed? What make me apparently more dangerous(in need of even more training, or psychological screening, or some other arbitrary requirement) on a college campus than when I'm in a Walmart, or some crowded street? You are beginning to sound like those in the Unicameral, cities of Omaha, Lincoln, Columbus, etc. and their respective police departments that we've been fighting tooth and nail with for the better part of the last decade that warned of "blood in the streets" and "old west shootouts" because we didn't have law-enforcement training and weren't "professional enough" to carry weapons like the Only Ones.
Remember, OPEN CARRY is legal everywhere in this state(except Obamaha's BS permit) where firearms are not prohibited by state or federal law. Just because a jacket or shirt may cover up that weapon, should not create a requirement for me to jump through hoops and pay hundreds of dollars for training and permits to carry said weapon because the almighty government says so.
wallace11bravo:
I'm gonna withdraw, as I'm being compared to those who spout the "wild west" rhetoric. I am tired of arguing on the internet. I do it everyday on the NSCC page, and in real life, and I have no interest in doing it here with actual pro-gun people.
I suppose if this is the general consensus, then I'll just push for vanilla CCW on campus even though I am almost certain it will never get anywhere. I'm trying to think outside the box (and not just for on campus), empty holster protests are great, but they don't actually change anything.
Aldo:
FarmerRick: I believe that LB430 allows you as a non-employee of the university to carry concealed on campus as you drive onto campus but not in buildings and that you are allowed to lock your hand gun in your vehicle upon exiting if you are going to enter a building. However, university policy (allowed by LB430) does not allow university students/employees to even drive onto campus unless we go directly to UNL campus security office on city campus and have it locked up in their station while we teh go about our business on campus.
I work on east campus, and so there is a great inconvenience for me to follow that policy plus I would then be without my handgun as I then would have to drive without it to east campus, and then at the end of my workday I would need to do the reverse process, all the while having myself exposed to the potential untoward adversarial elements of society during both treks (read what happened recently to the UNO faculty member as she was going to her car after work).
Thus, I support what wallace11bravo wishes to do as it would help to remove the university's restrictive and incredibly inconvenient policies on me as a university employee. My hours of additional training way exceeds the 20+ hours and there aren't any mental medications or issues with me (other than my willingness to vote for a can of pineapple before I would vote for Obama). If that is what it would take to get a Level II ccw permit, I would support it wholeheartedly.
Wallace11bravo: please don't give up. I am willing to help you as best as my work schedule allows (e.g., Thursdays typically during semesters I treat patients in the morning and teach students in the afternoon), but there is more latitude during semester breaks, etc or possibly on a couple select other half-days depending on my semester's schedule.
bullit:
Wallace....forgive me if you've been this route, but are you contacting Regents individually? I ask, because your BEST chance for meeting even one will likely be Tim Clare. He is officed out of Rembolt Ludtke in Lincoln and I bet a dime to a dollar he will meet with you at least "off the record" and can guide you. He could also give the "pulse" of his fellow Regents i.e. you may be pi$$ing in the wind.
Jim McClurg is a great and honorable guy, but he is retiring. Don't know about any of the others, but could guess about Chuck Hassebrook.
RLMoeller:
Speaking of Regents . . . Brad Ashfords wife is running for Regent, isn't she? I wonder if she has similar firearms views as her husband?
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