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Attacked by a dog?
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: bullit on May 07, 2012, 07:39:08 AM ---The use of DEADLY force is justified when one is under the immediate and otherwise unavoidable threat of death or grave bodily harm to ones self or other innocents...... that includes the four legged variety, too.
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Certainly there is no question that you have the right to use deadly force as it is necessary to avoid death or grievous bodily harm, but the bar isn't high for use of force (deadly or otherwise) against domestic animals.
I would venture to say that where you shoot a dog because you are reasonably in fear of an injury that would require medical treatment you would likely avoid criminal or civil liability.
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: Hardwood83 on May 06, 2012, 10:58:11 PM ---I'm curious about the legal specifics in this instance too. My opinion is if a dog attacks you in a public place it deserves to be shot.
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So long as "attack" really means "attack," and not "barked and growled at me," I agree.
wallace11bravo:
Interesting topic, personally, I care about people, not animals. I would shoot 100 dogs in the face if it meant saving one crack addict with aids.
It is really the same guidelines for lethal force in general:
-Ability
Is it a little rat dog that shows no signs of rabies? Is is a giant rottweiler?
-Intent
Is it running at you, growling? Is it running away or just standing there?
-Opportunity
Are you inside a vehicle? Is the animal on a leash?
Just some things to think about. It is an interesting topic to run some mental scenarios on.
RLMoeller:
I have read articles dating back to the 1800's about "baiting the bull" in England. The things that were done to the dog were horrible, and yet the dog was still determined to do what the owner told them. I figure if they can repeatedly have appendages cut off and still focus on the fight, a bit of pepper spray would not be a deterrent for dog that is determined.
sjwsti:
I have had a number of experiences with aggressive dogs while working as an exterminator years ago and on the Fire Dept now. Most times they have run away when confronted or have been small enough that they could be grabbed and put somewhere safe.
I have only had to really hurt a dog one time. I had a large, what appeared to be a golden retriever mix, go after my 20lb boston terrier, who was leashed in my yard at the time. When a couple of push kicks didnt work a solid soccer kick in the ribs convinced it to leave.
I have seen a number of dogs shot on warrant services. All were pitbulls doing as they had been trained to do. For example, on one memorable warrant, upon entry the lead officer was confronted by a large pitbull. As it charged he shot it twice with 5.56 breaking its spine. It continued to try and bite the officer coming towards him using only its forelegs. He transitioned to pistol to put it out of its misery and as he went to shoot it in the head it bit the muzzle of his gun as he fired. Now it was still trying to bite him with half of its jaw gone. A shot through the top of the head finally killed it.
Come across a dog like that, good luck with the pepper spray.
- Shawn
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