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What is your SD and/or carry ammo type? Anyone know what OPD and/or NSP uses?

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johnnyblack:
Hello all - so I just got my CHP (around day 56, FYI) and in my carry class, the instructor made note of certain issues surrounding what ammunition you use for SD/carry purposes.  His specific point was that if you are involved in a SD situation, shoot someone and injure them severely or kill them, your ammunition may come under scrutiny (as well as any number of other things) and he recommended using whatever loads local LEOs use - that way, if it comes to brass tacks you are less vulnerable to criticism, legally, for using excessively powered or designed ammo (i.e. why did you have to use the ammo that causes the most damage?)

So, with that in mind, anyone know what OPD and the NSP uses?  I would also love to hear your personal recommendations - with a little rationale...especially if you carry a walther pps 9mm or bersa 45 UC

thanks fellas!

RobertH:
i'd like to know this as well.

but right now i only use Hornady TAP or Critical Defense ammunition.

bullit:
NSP and most local LEOs are issued Speer Gold Dot.  Being from Texas and having family in Law Enforcement, most departments there issue Gold Dot, too.

FBI carries Winchester PDX, most in .40 S&W

Hornady makes great options, but I am not familiar with ANY Law Enforcement that issues, though.

The gold standard and still a good one is Federal Hydra Shok.  .45 ACP the most proven of all calibers in this bullet design (my personal choice for .45 ACP)

All great loads and your thinking is spot on....."yes, Mr. Prosecutor I chose to use the same ammuniton Law Enforcement is issued, not 'cop killer' ammo as you insinuate"

sjwsti:
Any of the above are good choices and will do their job if you do yours (shot placement). I recently had the opportunity to discuss the topic of ammo selection with a civilian contractor currently training Special Forces. He commented that they have done extensive live tissue training with nearly all of the common JHPs currently offered. And in his words they all perform nearly identically, regardless of caliber (9, 40, 45), in live tissue.

He did say that the CorBon DPX stood out as one of the only JHPs to actually gain mass in live tissue. Whereas most other non bonded JHPs fragmented and lost mass. His personal recommendation was to carry a bonded or solid copper JHP to allow for better retention of mass and better performance through light barriers.

- Shawn

jonm:

--- Quote from: sjwsti on June 19, 2012, 10:51:05 AM ---He did say that the CorBon DPX stood out as one of the only JHPs to actually gain mass in live tissue. Whereas most other non bonded JHPs fragmented and lost mass.

--- End quote ---
Losing mass is possible but how does a bullet gain mass? Maybe you meant it retains mass and gains diameter.

I personally use Winchester RA9T. It used the same Black Talon bullet without the scary black coating.

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