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What is your SD and/or carry ammo type? Anyone know what OPD and/or NSP uses?

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gsd:
If I remember correctly Chris Zeeb actually said don't tell anyone what you carry in the event of a SD situation. (as far as the media is concerned anyway)

Chris, correct me if I am wrong.

I myself carry TAP FPD 124 gr HP in my LC9.

sjwsti:

--- Quote from: jonm on June 19, 2012, 11:00:52 AM ---Losing mass is possible but how does a bullet gain mass? Maybe you meant it retains mass and gains diameter.

I personally use Winchester RA9T. It used the same Black Talon bullet without the scary black coating.

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It gained mass/weight by picking up tissue as it expanded. When it was extracted and weighed, it weighed more than when it started. The important point being that it lost nothing of its original mass/weight.  This was the only JHP they tested that did this. Im sure the others picked up some tissue along the way as well, but it didnt offset what was lost in separation or fragmentation.

- Shawn

johnnyblack:

--- Quote from: bullit on June 19, 2012, 10:29:14 AM ---NSP and most local LEOs are issued Speer Gold Dot.  Being from Texas and having family in Law Enforcement, most departments there issue Gold Dot, too.

FBI carries Winchester PDX, most in .40 S&W

Hornady makes great options, but I am not familiar with ANY Law Enforcement that issues, though.

The gold standard and still a good one is Federal Hydra Shok.  .45 ACP the most proven of all calibers in this bullet design (my personal choice for .45 ACP)

All great loads and your thinking is spot on....."yes, Mr. Prosecutor I chose to use the same ammuniton Law Enforcement is issued, not 'cop killer' ammo as you insinuate"

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just want to thank you and all the others for weighiong in- probably going to need to go pick up some gold dot and see how they cycle...

Chris Z:

--- Quote from: gsd on June 19, 2012, 11:02:47 AM ---If I remember correctly Chris Zeeb actually said don't tell anyone what you carry in the event of a SD situation. (as far as the media is concerned anyway)

Chris, correct me if I am wrong.

I myself carry TAP FPD 124 gr HP in my LC9.

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Correct, News media will try to hype up their story by finding out if you had "evil cop killing hollow points".

Keep in mind also, anything you post on the internet, will come up on a search..... Should something happen, the news media will scour your FB page and every internet forum you post in looking for tidbits of info  :-)

jonm:

--- Quote from: sjwsti on June 19, 2012, 12:06:11 PM ---It gained mass/weight by picking up tissue as it expanded. When it was extracted and weighed, it weighed more than when it started. The important point being that it lost nothing of its original mass/weight.  This was the only JHP they tested that did this. Im sure the others picked up some tissue along the way as well, but it didnt offset what was lost in separation or fragmentation.

- Shawn

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Gotcha. It didnt really gain mass, just got crap stuck in it.

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