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OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: whatsit ---I would be very interested to hear from the trainers and tactics guys that teach courses -- or even those that have taken a lot of courses.
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You just did. ;D
Shawn (a.k.a., "sjwsti") does a LOT of teaching and training.
Fly
SemperFiGuy:
whatsit [and whomever else might be interested....]
Shawn Whittington (sjwsti on this forum) is an EMS/EMT professional for OPD, including their SWAT team.
He--among all of us--sees blood in the streets as part of his everyday job. [Worse that ever happens to me is maybe a student falls asleep in class at the university.]
Shawn's self defense and tactical classes are among the best around the Omaha area. His training on anti-knife defense and on shooting from supine position alone were worth what I paid for his several classes. Plus how not to shoot yourself during a close-up confrontation.
So--check with Shawn. Take all his classes that you can.....They'll save your butt in a bad situation. They are chockfull of life-saving techniques.
And then I'd recommend Chris Zeeb's Legal Aspects of Lethal Force. Superb class, as well.
sfg
sjwsti:
I cant thank you guys enough for the endorsement. It means a lot.
--- Quote from: whatsit on July 19, 2012, 03:39:36 PM ---I would be very interested to hear from the trainers and tactics guys that teach courses -- or even those that have taken a lot of courses.
Anyway, I'm just wondering if anyone has a "real world" class that you can use to train yourself in "real world" situations like this.
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I believe that there are several Instructors on here that incorporate FOF drills into their classes. All of them would be worthwhile to attend.
I have attended FOF classes with Suarez International, including their Active Shooter/Terrorist Interdiction course, were they simulated terrorist attacks on the entire class inside a structure (to explain all I learned there would take more space than we have). Strike Tactical Solutions Level 6 class is an all day FOF test of what we learned in the previous 5 levels, and was the most challenging array of classes I have ever done. I have also assisted Strike Tactical with running FOF drills for their LEO Instructor Enhancement course. I act as a role player for DCS every chance I get making their annual active shooter training as challenging as I possibly can (who wouldnt want to spend an entire day shooting at cops and get thanked for it later). I along with several other knuckleheads do this stuff when we can on our own. We use actual situations like the one above as inspiration for drills all the time. I have posted some videos of our "training" sessions on this forum if you are ever bored and need some cheap entertainment.
I cant emphasize how important this type of training is. This is were you put your skills practiced on the range to the real test. And you find out very quickly what does and doesn't work full speed, against a live opponent, all while experiencing the very real physical effects of stress.
This type of training isn't for everyone. You have to leave your ego at the door, cause it will take a beating. But that is how we learn. If I end up doing something stupid, so be it. I want to expose any holes in my tactics so I can try to fix them before I have to use them on the street.
In the past I have tried scheduling a FOF gunfighting class at The Bullet Hole but got little interest. And the few people who were interested didn't have the necessary equipment so it never happened.
In the Advanced Pistol Level 3 class I do at The Bullet Hole we put each student through two realistic high stress FOF scenarios as the final test of the 3 levels. And everyone always wants more.
At 88 Tactical, were I also teach, we are currently working toward scheduling a number of FOF classes. They are looking at purchasing UMT conversions and marking cartridges. This will give us a level of realism that few can match. I will be sure to keep everyone posted as to how this is coming along.
- Shawn
DanClrk51:
--- Quote from: bigmountainskiercfg on July 17, 2012, 04:21:59 PM ---I like stories like this but I do want to ask? Why did he not get in trouble for shooting at them as they were obviously fleeing the scene?
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Because they were still holding onto their guns and thus the threat had not yet passed. This is how the police are trained and this is how ccw folks are trained: You keep on shooting until the bad guy either drops his weapon or he drops to the floor.
Just imagine if he had stopped shooting while they were fleeing and then decided to swing around and start shooting back. In those milliseconds you don't take chances.
DanClrk51:
--- Quote from: whatsit on July 19, 2012, 03:39:36 PM ---Another one might be to have your student stand in line with a bunch of innocents and have a BG run into the "store" with a gun. See the Walgreens video from Omaha or any number of armed robbery attempts floating around Youtube.
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There's a Walgreens video from the Omaha shooting available? Didn't know this....link please!
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