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open carry almost gone bad in lincoln
D.A.D.:
Sen. Christensen, who introduced LB 785 in 2012, is receptive in any and all input regarding a bill that he could introduce next year. The intent of the bill was to provide a better balance between private property rights and 2nd Amendment rights.
At this time, many employers (private and public) are using the wording of 69-2441(2) as a means of prohibiting CHP holders and all other firearms owners (remember CHP means "handguns" only) from storing their private property in their private property on someone else's private property. If you can't park your vehicle with your firearm(s) in it on your employer's property, then the effect is that your right to possess, transport, and store firearm(s) and is rendered null and void if you don't have a place to park your vehicle. You have to leave your firearm(s) at home and are not able to exercise your right to self-protection while traveling to and from work with a firearm because you can't leave it in your vehicle while you are working.
LB 785, whatever wording it might contain, needs to be like Neb. Rev. Stat. 12-1204.04(1)(e) and (f) which give firearm owners relief from the prohibition of firearms on school grounds by allowing them to be secured and completely covered in their vehicles while on school grounds "with no part of the firearm exposed."
I think the idea is for firearms owners to be discrete in their storage of firearms in vehicles and for employers (or people in control of the property) to relax their restrictions so that both parties are able to have their private property rights honored. Both parties would release the other from any civil liabilities that might arise from the presence or discharge of a firearm on/in the other's property.
In this day and age, you don't want to encourage anyone to knock out your car window to help themselves to some inviting personal possession that is lying out in the open. I just miss the days when people respected other people's property and would not steal a rifle out of a rack in the back window of a pickup truck even if the windows were down and the door unlocked. Sigh.
D.A.D.
cckyle:
I don't remember a time seeing rifles in rifles racks in the back of pickups, let alone windows down and unlocked doors. lol Hard to imagine. I did see a video on youtube once of a rifle rack that went on the ceiling in a jeep, but not in the window. I could see this being useful for hunting/hunters still. Is there a law outlawing rifles in rifle racks, or has it just become not common practice due to theft? I tried to search on the Nebraska legislature site for something regarding this but couldn't find anything.
Also lb785 didn't get voted down, did it?? I thought it was just postponed until next session, and may go up for vote next session, or no??
lefty:
Years ago it was common place to see 2 or 3 rifles, shotguns and maybe a lariat or two hanging on the gun rack of an unlocked pickup with the windows down in our town. Still see the rifles at times but the vehicles are usaslly locked now days. I carried a .22 Remington in my school car, which was left unlocked daily at our high school and mine wasn't the only one. Times have changed!
AAllen:
--- Quote from: cckyle on August 29, 2012, 03:47:28 AM ---Also lb785 didn't get voted down, did it?? I thought it was just postponed until next session, and may go up for vote next session, or no??
--- End quote ---
LB785 did not make it out of committee last year. It was just kind of being floated to see what the reception was and what may need to be changed to get a workable bill. It is my understanding that a new bill that is very similar to LB785 will be introduced in the upcoming session.
At this point Senator Christensen's office is looking at the comments received about it and trying to get the new bill written. Note this bill addresses issues beyond Concealed Carry but also protects hunters that may have their bags and guns packed so they can take off traveling once they get off work, or perhaps the person that goes to the range on their way to work. It also should or will address all weapons such as can a hunter keep a bow in their vehicle (with or without arrows), what if they were called in on their day of for an emergency and had been out hunting.
These are some of the many issues and comments that are being worked on during the off session time.
AAllen:
To get back onto topic, D.A.D.'s initial problem is still an issue, he can see how he is not breaking the law and in fact there is a law there to protect him from criminal prosecution. But the Lincoln City prosecutor's office interprets the laws in an entirely different way than how anything is written. Unfortunately the only way that there can be a challenge to this would for someone to get charged, if someone has a spare 20 or 30 thousand laying around to get this started we can see if we can come up with another way.
At this point I don't see how we can legislate away the stupidity, but if someone has an idea I'm open to listening.
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