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OnTheFly:
Regarding whether the business is responsible for our safety while on their property.  If the grocery store has a spill of cooking oil and neglects to clean it up, are they not responsible if a customer slips and falls?  This is something the business owner would have some direct control over; however, they could also have control of the entrance.  Customers could be screened for firearms/weapons just as we are at the airport.  I'm sure that would do wonders for their business!  But the point is that it is possible for the business to prevent those with evil intent from entering.

Fly

Dan W:
One thing I know for sure is they can not deter  "evil intent" with some entrance controls

OnTheFly:

--- Quote from: Dan W on August 02, 2012, 11:37:12 AM ---One thing I know for sure is they can not deter  "evil intent" with some entrance controls

--- End quote ---

Very true, but they can make a reasonable attempt to remove the tools that would allow them to act on their evil intent.  That is all the TSA can do is deter.  No system is perfect.  There are always holes in the swiss cheese.  The trick is to not let the holes align.

EDIT: Mind you, I am not promoting such an environment.  I'm just playing the devil's advocate.  I would prefer that they just let us carry in their business.

Fly

cckyle:

--- Quote from: OnTheFly on August 02, 2012, 11:16:31 AM ---Regarding whether the business is responsible for our safety while on their property.  If the grocery store has a spill of cooking oil and neglects to clean it up, are they not responsible if a customer slips and falls? 

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I have never thought about it that way, not sure it changes my opinion.  But good point regardless. 

ALiesveld:
What if they put up a sign on the front door that says spills may be neglected?

I think we go to businesses assuming a reasonable level of safety, and when that's guaranteed and then not provided, we essentially charge the business with fraud. If they're up front about their lack of safety, then it's ok. Hence sign postings and waivers.

"Reasonable level of safety" is mushy and open ended. I suppose it really is up to a court to decide whether the business is at fault or not, because I can't think of a strict set of guidelines that a business should follow. but I also think a disclaimer at the door absolves them.

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