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Offline Lorimor

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Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« on: August 22, 2012, 06:58:03 AM »
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 07:05:42 AM »
Well that sucks. I dont know about you guys, but i visually verify the chamber.

I'm sure the fearmongerers will try to use this to their advantage.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 07:14:15 AM »
Quote from: gsd on August 22, 2012, 07:05:42 AM
Well that sucks. I dont know about you guys, but i visually verify the chamber.

I'm sure the fearmongerers will try to use this to their advantage.

They already are.  Read the comments.  Team Smug is alive and well.

I check for an empty chamber whenever I pick up a firearm and even after verification, I DON'T DROP THE HAMMER WITH THE DAMN THING AIMED AT MY FOOT!
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2012, 07:30:20 AM »
Dumbass.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 08:51:09 AM »
Properly or improperly he got the gun unloaded. 
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 08:56:12 AM »
This is an example of what can happen with posted places.  The article does not state it but I would bet the permit holder was getting ready to go into a business that was posted.  The negligent discharge happened when he was working to secure his firearm in accordance with the law.

Yes the permit holder made a mistake, but it was a mistake that would not have happened if the gun could have stayed safely inside it's holster.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 09:10:52 AM »
I agree with Andy. This is an unintended consequence of requiring permit holders to disarm this way and lock the gun in there vehicle. Yeah, the guy made a mistake, but the chances for a mistake to occur were increased by the law.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 09:39:24 AM »
Quote from: AAllen on August 22, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
This is an example of what can happen with posted places.  The article does not state it but I would bet the permit holder was getting ready to go into a business that was posted.  The negligent discharge happened when he was working to secure his firearm in accordance with the law.

Yes the permit holder made a mistake, but it was a mistake that would not have happened if the gun could have stayed safely inside it's holster.

Why did he have to unload it? Keep it in the holster and lock it up. Seems pretty simple to me. 100% of the blame lies with the operator, a sign didn't make him do anything.

And if you really believe that the ordinance is partially responsible then we should be working toward removing it from the law. Businesses "open to the public" should not be allowed to ban CCW on their property.

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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 09:59:21 AM »
I hope he doesn't get an unlawful discharge filed against him too, he would more than likely lose his permit.

It's unfortunate that this has happened, but the odds are against the whole state going without an accident since there are so many with permits.

I guess I don't understand the pulling of the trigger without having the gun pointed in a safe direction. If he wouldn't have hit himself, nobody would have known until he told the story about the hole in the floor of his car.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 11:03:32 AM »
I rack three times, check for a round with my finger, check for a mag with my finger, visual, visual, done.

I always make sure to aim at something I wouldn't mind shooting... like my girlfriends cat.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 11:11:17 AM »
Mine just stays loaded at the ready! :D
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 11:13:58 AM »
I can't think of any reason why he would have needed to pull the trigger, unless he was disassembling it for some reason.  Negligent discharges do happen, but there is no excuse for pulling the trigger if you are just unloading.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 11:54:52 AM »
Quote from: bkoenig on August 22, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
I can't think of any reason why he would have needed to pull the trigger, unless he was disassembling it for some reason.  Negligent discharges do happen, but there is no excuse for pulling the trigger if you are just unloading.

Exactly my thinking. Only pull the trigger during dry fire drills when no ammo is even in the same room or when you are at the range.
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Re: Permit Holder Shoots Self in Foot- Lincoln
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 02:26:07 PM »
Quote from: cracked junior on August 22, 2012, 08:51:09 AM
Properly or improperly he got the gun unloaded.

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