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Speeding up the issuance of CCW for battered women

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Chris C:

--- Quote from: HuskerXDM on September 21, 2012, 05:06:10 PM ---I don't believe that statute is written for any specific groups as it does not name any groups.  I think SFG is right, and it would apply to the battered woman scenario above.  To me the only problem is a person who feared for their life may still have to go to court (the affirmative defense part) to justify their actions, which would cost a pretty penny.  However, at least someone in that situation would still be alive. 

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I agree.  That’s how that law has been explained to me either in Ayoobs class or might have been another one I took.  You can conceal carry w/o a permit but better have a darn good reason for it.

David Hineline:
While having a permit in NE would help this battered woman in other states perhaps, NE law says that a prudent person can carry a concealed handgun if the situation is appropriate.

I carried years before there was a permit system, with full approval of LE/Courts as did people who had threats against their safety.  Nothing wrong with the idea I guess but un-needed.

Anyway see you in the AM

Sheepdog:

--- Quote from: DaveB on September 21, 2012, 05:02:25 AM ---Why should one person have a permit before others that have done nothing wrong? If someone is legal to own a gun, they should have one, but the conceal permit rush should be for all citizens, not just a select group. What about men that are abused by women? Should an angry person be allowed to get a concealed carry permit immediately because they have someone already in their sights? Maybe they should have gotten the permit a few years ago, they were probably having issues then.

I am against giving certain people expedited rights over the rest of the people.

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DaveB

 I agree with the piece about the rush being for all people.  I would not mind if this would extend to all applicants.

My idea is that after a woman was, to put it bluntly, "used as a verbal or physical punching bag" that little piece of paper giving by a judge doesn't have much effect on some people.

I will admit I have no facts to back this up but I believe that the number of men abused by women is relatively low compared to the opposite.

What is to keep some one who is angry from getting a CCW as it is?

I too am against expedited rights in general but I can see the need for them in certain circumstances. I think this is one of them.

cracked junior:
That is what restraining orders are for.   



Oh wait a piece of paper has never stopped anyone.   

DaveB:
I have been married to a woman who spent 10 years in an abusive marriage before. I also believe that everyone should have the right to self preservation.

First off, most all abused women end up going back into the same relationship more than once after being abused, to include beaten. Most will go back thinking it was their fault. Some will go back because of kids, some will go back because of what people think of them. Some will go back because it is the same type of person they grew up with as a father. Some will run. Some don't even think it's a bad relationship until something actually wakes them up from what they have been living.

Giving an instant permit to someone because they have been beaten may in some cases open the door to instant revenge. Sure, it's not going to happen all the time, but it will happen. Not every woman that is in an abusive relationship is a fine, upstanding citizen with a sound mind. And what difference is the CCW permit going to make when it is legal to own a gun in your home, the place where most abuse takes place anyway.

The actual only part of the OP that I totally disagree with is that one group of people should have expedited privileges over the rest of us.

Also, there are a lot of men in abusive relationships. The difference is that it is not acceptable to file any kinds of reports because it just isn't proper for a man to be beat by a woman. Unless he is poisoned or killed, it is a non-issue. So there is no reason a man can get a permit expedited because he's a man.

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