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bk09:
--- Quote from: unfy on October 29, 2012, 03:54:41 PM ---
As for those that love Romney and hate Obama, I have a very simple question:
Can you name 5 policy differences between the two ?
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Taxes, healthcare, defense spending, abortion, energy
unfy:
--- Quote from: bradkoll on October 29, 2012, 05:36:40 PM ---Taxes, healthcare, defense spending, abortion, energy
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Hey look, one word vague answers that are as rather meaningless.
Taxes: Both are pro big gov't, and as governor Romney got around some of his pledges to not increases taxes by instead adding on 'fees' and such. Also, Obama claimed to not add taxes and has done otherwise. Hate to 'convict' Romeny before he has a chance to make good on his claim... but... Differences are where ?
Healthcare: Romney Care vs Obama Care ? Sounds awefully similar to me.
Defense Spending: Looking at all of the charts and historical records concerning the history of US "defense spending", everything looks to be increasing over time - including during the Obama Administration. Looks to be a shallow talking point with no bite.
Abortion: now there's a funny one. How many times has Romney changed views and how unclear has his position been in the last few weeks that it's required a lot of media attention ?
Energy: see... this one, I *MIGHT* be able to give to you as a good solid answer. You'd have to be more detailed though :).
Hardwood83:
Ok we get it, you're not thrilled with Romney. Join the club, as I don't know anyone that is- so 'stirring the pot' is juvenile imo. Romney is clearly not a conservative nor a champion of individual liberty..... I still voted for him (early, obviously) and gladly would 3-4 more times if I lived in Chicago. Obongo is a despicable socialist and the single greatest threat to America. Claiming there is no difference between the 2 isn't credible. Enjoy voting for Gary Johnson or Ron Paul or whoever else you so choose.
FarmerRick:
Vote for who ever you want to, but a vote that isn't for Willard is one less vote that Obama has to overcome.
That's a scenario that scares the living daylights out of me.
unfy:
"Stirring the pot" is a tad excessive don't you think ?
I'm attempting to get people to think for themselves and to ask if a given candidate truly matches their own beliefs, and to possibly do their own research. Also - to get beyond fluffly shallow talking points.
What ideals do you find favorable ?
When you compare those ideals to the history of a given elected official (or a person running for a position) - are they similar to your own ?
Is the platform that person running on actually have any meat and potatoes or is it just buzz word compliant with no substance ?
Does the history of that person coincide with their proposed platform ?
--- Quote ---Claiming there is no difference between the 2 isn't credible
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See, I'd love to agree with you ... but I can name maybe only three differences myself, and they're not earth shattering. You sadly also didn't name any differences :(. I really really really want someone to make me have some faith in the guy, I really do.
But concerning 'the two' -> one is running under a republican banner, the other under a democrat banner. Outside of that, where are the differences ? We'll skip the implication this implies concerning parties on a national level.
I imagine most everyone here considers themselves a republican. They have a certain core set of beliefs and feel quite strongly about them. That's great! Comparing person to person, probably most of us share 90% of beliefs.
My problem is I don't see any of those beliefs being represented by Romney.
Just because he's under the republican flag and because the republican party's platform used to coincide with my own beliefs, doesn't mean that he's going to magically turn into *MY* representative despite all evidence to the contrary.
Wish in one hand, and what in the other ?
In no particular order:
[ ] Strong defender of the 2nd Amendment
[ ] Reduce government spending
[ ] Reduce government bureaucracy
[ ] Reduce our intervening in foreign affairs
[ ] Reduce government involvement in my personal affairs (economic or social)
[ ] Reduce federal government stepping on states rights
[ ] Secure border / assist States in dealing with it
[ ] Reduce government interference with businesses
[ ] Not a Keynsian economics person
As noted, I can't check any of those for Romney.
If there's not much difference between the two then what's the difference for voting for one or the other ? If the end result is the same... ???
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