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Legislature Term Limit Increase

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NENick:

--- Quote from: pfinn on November 05, 2012, 08:07:31 PM ---Term limits drive me nuts, they only exist to remove some one ELSE's representative from power. They taken discretion out of the hands of the voters when it comes to retaining good representatives.

If people are passionate that a change needs to be made, people should be more active in making that change happen.

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Thank God we were able to get rid of Ernie for four years.

Waltherfan:
IMHO term limits were passed to get rid of the one senator we couldn't vote out. Problem is we didn't add that they can't come back.  :o
If the system is so complicated that it's difficult to learn in only two terms, then they should make it less complex. Simplify the system, make it more efficient (which it isn't) and then two terms will be plenty.

bullit:
I'm in agreement with Waltherfan.  There is this concept that elected office requires some sort of mysterious higher brain power.  It ain't rocket science.  Sadly, the American public has been duped time and again that the longer you serve the better more "intelligent" you are at deciding what is best for the masses.  Again, our Founding Fathers left the oligarchy in England, and until FDR, career politicians were almost non-existent. 

wallace11bravo:

--- Quote from: bullit on November 05, 2012, 07:09:59 AM ---Our Founding Fathers never intended to have "career politicians".  George Washington (our first POTUS for those of you in Rio Linda) is our best example of an elected official who said it was time to go back to be a "CITIZEN" (emphasis mine)......
With regards to the increase in pay issue Amendment... I'm personally in favor of NO pay.  Keeps'em honest (and likely discourages the life time careers).

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Excellent point, and I do agree. Politics should be no one's career.


--- Quote from: David Hineline on November 05, 2012, 10:29:57 PM ---Term limits are a pointless futility, we have term limits every time we vote.  For the life of me I do not know why they work but they do.


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Also a good point, and by enforcing term limits are we not limiting voter's options?


Still torn  :-\

Sandhillian:
I'm torn on the term limits issue.  I think a great compromise here would have been to extend the limit to 3 terms, and add a prohibition to running again after having served 3 terms.  Once you hit 3 terms there's no coming back, you can't sit out one election and then get a fresh set of 3.

On the pay increase for legislators, I would have to say that it's much needed and warranted.  As Andy said, the low pay really limits who is able to serve as a legislator.  There are several people that are unintentionally excluded from serving as a state senator based on finances.  You shouldn't have to be retired or independently wealthy to run for and serve in the legislature.  That also limits the institutional knowledge, culture, diversity, etc.

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