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How long to wait for CCW permit?

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GreyGeek:

--- Quote from: Bucket on March 25, 2013, 06:55:08 PM --- It's not about the permit, it's about the state disregarding the rules set up by the legislature.
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Unfortunately there isn't a penalty against the state for failing to abide by the law.  IF the shoe were on the other foot the penalties would be applied immediately and to the full letter of the law.   How to force the state into compliance?   How many can afford the time and money to pursue the matter, or even think it is worth the time or money to do so?

Maybe if we could get the CHP law modified to state that if an application isn't processed within the statutory days the applicant gets their license fee back and gets their temporary permit as well.  If the final permit is issued the applicant keeps  the license fee, if not they pay it.

Bucket:

--- Quote from: GreyGeek on March 26, 2013, 09:25:50 AM ---Unfortunately there isn't a penalty against the state for failing to abide by the law.  IF the shoe were on the other foot the penalties would be applied immediately and to the full letter of the law.   How to force the state into compliance?   How many can afford the time and money to pursue the matter, or even think it is worth the time or money to do so?

Maybe if we could get the CHP law modified to state that if an application isn't processed within the statutory days the applicant gets their license fee back and gets their temporary permit as well.  If the final permit is issued the applicant keeps  the license fee, if not they pay it.


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They will only be accountable if we make an effort to hold them to it.  That's why being nonchalant about it is only going to make the situation worse.  I'm not implying that there's a nefarious move by the NSP to delay permits, but the only way to hold a bureaucracy accountable is to keep a bright light shining on them. 

Phantom:
Well I put mine in 30 days ago so we're getting close.

15 more days

daleemt:
4 more days will be 45 days

depserv:
Both Federal and State law say clearly that there is a right to bear arms, and there is a 4th Amendment right to do things in a way that government can't see you doing them; there is also a presumption of innocence that is fundamental to our law.  That means you have a legal right to carry concealed whether or not you have bureaucratic permission to do so. 

But since those who have no respect for the law have the power to put you in jail for noncompliance with their illegal edicts, you just have to wait until they get around to giving you permission.

This could be changed by our legislature, and maybe it will be, if enough patriots complain about what is apparently deliberate feet-dragging by so-called public servants.  If we have a system in place that can tell more or less instantly whether or not you are eligible to buy a gun, I'd think that someone willing to invest the money and jump through the hoops to get a permit to exercise his Constitutional right should be given the benefit of the doubt, and given a temporary permit as soon as he applies.

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