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dkarp:
I am actually surprised she went this far- I expected her to ram through the same 94 AWB, "for now, until we can do something more." That same law would have had a very good chance of passing. Of course, this one may be watered down so much that it will be essentially the same as the old one.


Edited to add: here is the NRA-ILA's analysis of the supposed bill
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2012/feinstein-goes-for-broke-with-new-gun-ban-bill.aspx

However- I read what was on her website (felt bad about actually accessing her site...but I felt I had to...) but it seems the NRA is assuming that semi-autos in the registry can't be transferred, and have to be surrendered to the GOV on the owners death. I don't see that anywhere in her summary.

Does the NRA-ILA have some access to something we haven't seen yet?

NRA's assumption:
"Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government."

I will let you find Feinsteins bill summary on your own, I really don't want to link to it from here. I feel dirty enough after looking at her site.


Also- what the hell is the "one military feature" that will make the firearm an "evil assault weapon"? Guess we won't know for sure until the bill is officially introduced.

AAllen:
dkarp, see the first item on Feinstein's list bans the SALE, TRANSFER, or manufacture.  So by banning all sales or transfers of all "assault weapons" their would not be the ability to do so with one on the registry.

One military feature: Pistol Grip, flash suppressor or muzzle brake, adjustable or folding stock, bayonet mount, that shoulder thing that goes up, etc.  The last "assault weapon's" ban allowed two items from the list.

dkarp:

--- Quote from: AAllen on December 28, 2012, 09:26:28 AM ---dkarp, see the first item on Feinstein's list bans the SALE, TRANSFER, or manufacture.  So by banning all sales or transfers of all "assault weapons" their would not be the ability to do so with one on the registry.

One military feature: Pistol Grip, flash suppressor or muzzle brake, adjustable or folding stock, bayonet mount, that shoulder thing that goes up, etc.  The last "assault weapon's" ban allowed two items from the list.

--- End quote ---

Just to clarify, it seems that flash hiders and bayonet lugs are no longer "evil features." I am thinking that now the "military feature" will be the pistol grip/thumbhole stock or any variation thereof.

Text from the summary on her page:

"Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and"

Also, later on in her summary in the ATF registry section it mentions a "background check of any owner and any transferee", I'm confused. If they can't be transferred, why a background check on any transferee?

Maybe it's a case of someone in her office cutting and pasting the ATF regulations relating to machine guns, and the text of the actual bill will address this for "assault weapons"?

Neeco:

--- Quote from: dkarp on December 28, 2012, 09:15:18 AM ---I am actually surprised she went this far- I expected her to ram through the same 94 AWB, "for now, until we can do something more." That same law would have had a very good chance of passing. Of course, this one may be watered down so much that it will be essentially the same as the old one.


Edited to add: here is the NRA-ILA's analysis of the supposed bill
http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2012/feinstein-goes-for-broke-with-new-gun-ban-bill.aspx

However- I read what was on her website (felt bad about actually accessing her site...but I felt I had to...) but it seems the NRA is assuming that semi-autos in the registry can't be transferred, and have to be surrendered to the GOV on the owners death. I don't see that anywhere in her summary.

Does the NRA-ILA have some access to something we haven't seen yet?

NRA's assumption:
"Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government."

I will let you find Feinsteins bill summary on your own, I really don't want to link to it from here. I feel dirty enough after looking at her site.


Also- what the hell is the "one military feature" that will make the firearm an "evil assault weapon"? Guess we won't know for sure until the bill is officially introduced.

--- End quote ---

Is there a source for the information about turning in weapons upon death?

dkarp:
Not that I have seen- the only info I have seen is from Feinstein's website, (shudder) that has a page with a "summary of 2013 legislation" here:

h t t p://w w w.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons ( I just can't bring myself to hotlink to her site, hence the spaces in the URL).   :'(

There is also a link to a PDF with exactly the same information:

h t tp://w w w.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve/?File_id=10993387-5d4d-4680-a872-ac8ca4359119

None of this has anything about forfeiture upon the owner's death......not to say she won't have it in the actual language of the bill...it's just not in the summary.

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