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HuskerXDM:

--- Quote from: SS_N_NE on January 16, 2013, 07:59:19 PM ---I took a quick run through the document....saw a lot of solutions with $$$$$ attached....

$4 billion
$14 million
$10 million
$20 million
$150 million
$30 million
$50 million
$15 million
$40 million
$25 million
$25 million
$50 million

...and a few mentions of grants without a $$$$ attached.

Looks like they found another way to fan the checkbook. Why is everything about spending money?

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I'll bet China won't have a problem lending the US money to take guns out of our hands...

dcjulie:

--- Quote from: pfinn on January 16, 2013, 01:55:05 PM ---And here are the 23 Executive Orders signed by Obama:

2. "Address unnecessary legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system."

16. "Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes."

17. "Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities."

20. "Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover."

21. "Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges."

22. "Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations."


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This is SCARY!  I urge anyone who has had any mental health diagnosis anywhere on their records to have their health care provider declare them completely recovered from whatever it was.  Personally, as a health care provider, the idea that anyone can tell me that I have to give the government private and confidential health information scares the daylights out of me.  Pretty soon we'll be seeing executive orders telling us that anyone who isn't right handed should be flogged in the public square!

OnTheFly:
Here is the email I received from the Veep...


--- Quote ---Hello --

Today President Obama announced a plan to help protect our kids and communities from gun violence. You're going to hear a lot about it, but I wanted to make sure you got a chance to get the facts, straight from me.

After hearing from Americans from across the political spectrum, we decided to focus on some key priorities: closing background check loopholes, banning military-style assault weapons, making our schools safer, and increasing access to mental health services.

The ideas we sent to President Obama are straightforward. Each of them honors the rights of law-abiding, responsible Americans to bear arms. Some of them will require action from Congress; the President is acting on others immediately. But they're all commonsense and will help make us a little safer.

Now is the time for all of us to act.

Read about the events that brought us to this point, learn about the plan we've proposed to help protect our kids, and then add your name in support to help build momentum for this plan.

Here's what we've put together:

We're calling for requiring background checks for all gun sales and closing the loopholes that allow dangerous individuals to make their purchase without going through one of these checks.

We're asking for a new, stronger ban on military-style assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that allow a shooter to fire dozens of bullets as quickly as he can pull a trigger. And we're asking Congress to help protect law enforcement by make it illegal for members of the public to possess armor-piercing bullets.

We're going to give law enforcement more tools and resources to prevent and prosecute gun crimes, and we're going to end the freeze on gun violence research that prevents the Center from Disease Control from looking at the causes of gun violence.

We're calling on Congress to help make schools safer by putting up to 1,000 school resource officers and mental health professionals in schools and ensuring they have comprehensive emergency management plans in place.

And we're going to increase coverage so that students and young adults can get access to the mental health treatment they may need.

We know that no policy we enact or law we enforce can prevent every senseless act of violence in our country. But if we can save the life of even one child, we have a deep responsibility to act.

Now is the time to come together to protect our kids. Learn about the plan, then add your name alongside mine:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/now-is-the-time

Thanks,

Vice President Joe Biden
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XDHusker:

--- Quote from: pfinn on January 16, 2013, 01:55:05 PM ---4. "Direct the attorney general to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks."
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This one bothers me, but the devil will surely be in the details.  I have an old misdemeanor conviction, so I could easily see them adding a whole slew of misdemeanor convictions that now ban people from owning guns.  Kind of like the domestic violence dis qualifier now.

The mental health piece makes me VERY nervous as well because there are so many "mental health" issues that people get treatment for.  I've gone to a Dr. for ADHD and I went to marriage counseling several years ago.  Both are considered "mental health" visits and a diagnosis of ADHD is a mental illness.

As they say every law has unintended consequences.  Think about it.  If you are having voices in your head but own a gun are you going to be more likely or less likely to go see a Doctor with these laws in effect.  Hey, if I go to the Doctor Obama will ban me for life from owning guns.  Umm, I'll just deal with the voices myself. 

RobertH:
who would you pick as #11 (ATF director)?.  where do i send my resume?

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