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wusker:
Hopefully most of you can find it in it's entirety I watched as much as was possible. I am new to this, being a new gun owner so I do have some questions. Be gentle with me.

-What is so bad about universal background checks?
-I am guessing they are not currently required for private sales.
-If I was selling my brand new M&P 9, I would require the buyer to have a Nebr. purchase permit, does this make me unloved by other gun owners ;)

I realize this would not fix the issue of violience as it is a systemic issue within America, And as Mr. Lapierre (sp?) explained that 78% of gun violence occurs with a handgun and out of those 10's of thousands, less than 100 were prosecuted. But it might cut back on some gun violence, and would that be worth it?

'Nuff Said
Wusker

00BUCK:
I speak for only myself, but I don't see how they would possibly prevent gang bangers and other criminals from getting firearms. The weapons they are using are not being bought at gun shows. They are most likely stolen firearms being sold on the street. Using Sandy Hook as the example that is now at the forefront, the weapons used were stolen weapons. Would universal background checks have prevented that tragedy? NO! So it is just one more stupid law that is laid upon us that will do NOTHING to stop "gun crime". And isn't that how the gun haters are packaging this - "to stop gun crime"? That said, yes I am 100% opposed to any additional stupid laws that will do NOTHING but further infringe / inconvenience my 2A rights.

Another way to look at it is you want to go to Billy Joe Jim Bob's bait and liquor to by a bottle of Wild Turkey 101. The crusty old guy behind the counter says "Do you have your I have never drank and drove card? Oh, you don't? I'll have to call the state patrol to see if you have ever been convicted of drinking and driving before I can sell you a bottle".

This BS has NOTHING to do with "safety" and EVERYTHING to do with laying the groundwork for weapons registration and ultimately (attempted) confiscation.

sparky:
You must have a Nebraska Purchase Permit to buy any pistol private or at a FFL, you do not have to have a Nebraska Purchase Permit to buy a rifle privately or at a gunshow.  So the only loophole that they are referring to is buying a rifle would require a Nebraska Purchase Permit or nics check for private sales and at gunshows.

Phantom:

--- Quote from: wusker on January 30, 2013, 02:43:20 PM ----What is so bad about universal background checks?
-I am guessing they are not currently required for private sales.
-If I was selling my brand new M&P 9, I would require the buyer to have a Nebr. purchase permit, does this make me unloved by other gun owners
--- End quote ---

Ok as i understand it Universal background checks are background checks on EVERY transfer,
sale, purchase, trade, gift, rental, and loan of a firearm between any and all individuals. 

All background checks must be conducted through a federally licensed dealer. 
Universal background checks have nothing to do with gun shows – it's about you.

what does that mean to you ?
if you to give your M&P 9 to your 12-year-old grandson to teach him to shoot or give it to him when he's older you'd have to do a background check on your grandson before giving him the M&P 9
Same think if your mother had prowlers at her home, you'd have to do a background on her before you could give her one of your guns for protection.

universal background checks would turn typical innocent actions by you into a criminal offenses.
and all must be done and conducted through a federally licensed dealer.

You can forget the Nebraska purchase permit way of doing it .........you'd need a FFL gun dealer first before you buy, sell, trade or even give away a gun or Ammo (this is also to be included as i understand it)

then we get into Transfer fees for the each of the above transactions.....

Understand better now ?

Oh but i forgot the best part .......in order to make sure you do it ...
Every Handgun, Rifle, and Shotgun needs to be registered and placed in the federal gun owner database. 

Husker_Fan:
Like sparky said, we have universal background checks for handguns in this state. Of course, the fact that even the chief of the Bellevue PD ignored the law shows its effectiveness.

Maybe the AG and the county attorney's should start enforcing the current law and charge everyone caught with a gun who has never had a purchase permit. That's something that could be done right now without passing another law that won't impact the criminals.

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