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Senate Judicairy Committee, Question about gun show loopholes.

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Husker_Fan:
On a side note, that also means giving your state rep encouragement to fund such prosecutions. I think there is a fear among some of them that pushing for more enforcement will take away from the pot of money available to get them reelected.

AAllen:
OK problems with "universal background checks" as proposed, first it creates a federal registration of all firearms.  Next it stops the in family type transfer without going through the background check, next every transfer either needs to be done by an FFL or the Police.   If the person you are selling the firearm to does not pass the background check then they need to do a background check on you to make certain that you can have your gun back, fail for any reason (including errors by the FBI) and you lost your gun, and if that does not happen and you get your gun back you pay for two transfers (fee set at $15 each, way below what anyone charges for transfers) and the FFL ends up being legally liable if the firearm they transfered has issues (it has to go into there books for the transfer).

Then of course who really thinks that a criminal is going to buy their gun with a background check, they are breaking lots of other laws buying and selling firearms without background checks will not bother them.

Mudinyeri:
I disagree with Andy ... a little bit.  Universal background checks don't automatically equal federal registration of all firearms.  Universal background checks COULD equate to federal registration of all firearms, but that is not an absolute certainty.  The difference, I think, is where we often get hung up.  Anti-gun extremists, for lack of a better term, would like to see federal registration of firearms as a component of universal background checks.  Others, with a more moderate view of gun rights, might be willing to negotiate.

The problem is this - criminals steal guns or purchase stolen guns.  How would a universal background check prevent guns from getting into the hands of criminals?

I'll lay down a challenge for those who embrace universal background checks.  Show me a background check that can PREVENT a murder and I'll show you a pink unicorn that farts rainbows.

Gabby Giffords said it in her brief speech before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Gun Violence yesterday.  "We must do something."

Agreed.  We must do something about violence in our culture.  However, we should do something that will actually have an impact on reducing violence rather than something that will have no impact while trampling on the enumerated rights of millions of law-abiding citizens.

kozball:

--- Quote from: Mudinyeri on January 31, 2013, 09:53:58 AM ---
 and I'll show you a pink unicorn that farts rainbows.


--- End quote ---

Mud, you been in those special brownies again? Remember what happened last time your went boating?  ;D

I think you nailed it here. It is not about the guns, it's about people. The checks that are in place should do the job for legal purchases. Bad guys don't do legal.

AAllen:
Mud please take note of the qualifier in my statement.  "universal background checks" as proposed. 

Could they just open up the NICS system so anyone can call in to do a check, yes but that is not what has been proposed.

As far as the rest of your statement, we are in total agreement!

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