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Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« on: March 26, 2013, 08:52:42 PM »

We now know a lot more about what's going to happen with gun control legislation than we did a few days ago.

First, the number of the bill we are fighting is S. 649. and brought it directly onto the Senate calendar. This means the bill can now come up at any time — probably soon after the Easter recess is over.

Second, the bill is a lot worse than even we anticipated.

We expected it to contain the Veterans Gun Ban, which would mean that you would sell, gift, or raffle a gun in America at the risk of a 15-year prison sentence because of something you didn't know about the veteran/buyer.

Continued in link below, and has a easy to use email function to contact your lawmakers to oppose this.

http://www.gunowners.org/a03252013b.htm

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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 07:23:04 AM »
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d113:s649:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/s649/text

S 649 PCS


Calendar No. 32


113th CONGRESS


1st Session


S. 649

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes.


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES


March 21, 2013

Mr. REID introduced the following bill; which was read the first time


March 22, 2013

Read the second time and placed on the calendar


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A BILL

To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE; TABLE OF CONTENTS.
(a) Short Title- This Act may be cited as the ‘Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013’.



and on, and on, and on.....

no redeeming value in any part of this bill.  :(
« Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 07:33:58 AM by FarmerRick »
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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 07:26:32 AM »
Subtitle B--Requiring a Background Check for Every Firearm Sale


SEC. 121. PURPOSE.
The purpose of this subtitle is to extend the Brady Law background check procedures to all sales and transfers of firearms.


SEC. 122. FIREARMS TRANSFERS.
(a) In General- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is amended--

(1) by repealing subsection (s);

(2) by redesignating subsection (t) as subsection (s);

(3) in subsection (s), as redesignated--

(A) in paragraph (3)(C)(ii), by striking ‘(as defined in subsection (s)(8))’; and

(B) by adding at the end the following:

‘(7) In this subsection, the term ‘chief law enforcement officer’ means the chief of police, the sheriff, or an equivalent officer or the designee of any such individual.’; and

(4) by inserting after subsection (s), as redesignated, the following:

‘(t)(1) Beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of enactment of the Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013, it shall be unlawful for any person who is not licensed under this chapter to transfer a firearm to any other person who is not licensed under this chapter, unless a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer has first taken possession of the firearm for the purpose of complying with subsection (s). Upon taking possession of the firearm, the licensee shall comply with all requirements of this chapter as if the licensee were transferring the firearm from the licensee’s inventory to the unlicensed transferee.

‘(2) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

‘(A) bona fide gifts between spouses, between parents and their children, between siblings, or between grandparents and their grandchildren;

‘(B) a transfer made from a decedent’s estate, pursuant to a legal will or the operation of law;

‘(C) a temporary transfer of possession that occurs between an unlicensed transferor and an unlicensed transferee, if--

‘(i) the temporary transfer of possession occurs in the home or curtilage of the unlicensed transferor;

‘(ii) the firearm is not removed from that home or curtilage during the temporary transfer; and

‘(iii) the transfer has a duration of less than 7 days; and

‘(D) a temporary transfer of possession without transfer of title made in connection with lawful hunting or sporting purposes if the transfer occurs--

‘(i) at a shooting range located in or on premises owned or occupied by a duly incorporated organization organized for conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in firearms and the firearm is, at all times, kept within the premises of the shooting range;

‘(ii) at a target firearm shooting competition under the auspices of or approved by a State agency or nonprofit organization and the firearm is, at all times, kept within the premises of the shooting competition; or

‘(iii) while hunting or trapping, if--

‘(I) the activity is legal in all places where the unlicensed transferee possesses the firearm;

‘(II) the temporary transfer of possession occurs during the designated hunting season; and

‘(III) the unlicensed transferee holds any required license or permit.

‘(3) For purposes of this subsection, the term ‘transfer’--

‘(A) shall include a sale, gift, loan, return from pawn or consignment, or other disposition; and

‘(B) shall not include temporary possession of the firearm for purposes of examination or evaluation by a prospective transferee while in the presence of the prospective transferee.

‘(4)(A) Notwithstanding any other provision of this chapter, the Attorney General may implement this subsection with regulations.

‘(B) Regulations promulgated under this paragraph--

‘(i) shall include a provision setting a maximum fee that may be charged by licensees for services provided in accordance with paragraph (1); and

‘(ii) shall include a provision requiring a record of transaction of any transfer that occurred between an unlicensed transferor and unlicensed transferee accordance with paragraph (1).’.

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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 08:28:40 AM »
‘(ii) shall include a provision requiring a record of transaction of any transfer that occurred between an unlicensed transferor and unlicensed transferee accordance with paragraph (1).’.


= registration, and more paperwork crimes to be selectively enforced.

When they start prosecuting the ALL the people that lie on the 4473's now, then they can have a leg to stand on in saying there needs to be more laws ..... they can't or won't enforce the laws on the books as it is.
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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 07:31:16 AM »

= registration, and more paperwork crimes to be selectively enforced.

When they start prosecuting the ALL the people that lie on the 4473's now, then they can have a leg to stand on in saying there needs to be more laws ..... they can't or won't enforce the laws on the books as it is.

Precisely.
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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 09:20:34 AM »
From Permit to purchase to CCW permit I think I filled out the same paperwork five times

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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2013, 11:22:56 AM »
Enemies of freedom will take the biggest bite they can out of the right to keep and bear arms.  This bill is just one of many angles they are attacking from.  And they know that if they go for a really big bite, even if they don't get all of it they can get some of it, while pretending to be open-minded and fair and all that because they compromised.  Then later they can go for the rest of it.  And more.  Step by step.  That's what they mean by the word progressive

I think universal background checks and related issues have widespread popularity due to media-generated ignorance.  So the best course of action at this point is probably to do what we can to get the truth out about them.

With such a massive barrage of propaganda coming from liberal media, there is a tendency among many whose commitment is weak to want to give in on something.  Patriots should be talking to those who are weak and ignorant and explaining the truth to them, about individual bills like this one and also about the overall assault on freedom that this one bill is just another part of.

I refer to this as deprogramming.  We all have access to indoctrinated dupes, and we know the truth about these issues, so this means to do what we can to defend our Republic is available to us.
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Re: Harry Reid introduced new gun bill on Thursday
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2013, 04:47:36 PM »

"To ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the national instant criminal background check system and require a background check for every firearm sale, and for other purposes".

"and for other purposes"....what's that?