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Offline Mudinyeri

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Is Obama's skeet gun a "semi-automatic assault weapon"?
« on: February 12, 2013, 02:53:12 PM »
I was looking at another meme of Obama shooting skeet today and it got me to thinking ....  Would the Browning Citori in the picture be considered a "Semi-Automatic Assault Weapon" according to the definition in Feinstein's bill?

Here are the relevant sections from the bill:

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(31) The term ‘semiautomatic shotgun’ means any
11 repeating shotgun that—
12 (A) utilizes a portion of the energy of a firing
13 cartridge to extract the fired cartridge case and
14 chamber the next round; and
15 (B) requires a separate pull of the trigger to
16 fire each cartridge.’’

(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’
19 means any of the following, regardless of country of manu
20 facture or caliber of ammunition accepted:

‘‘(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has any 1
7 of the following:
8 ‘‘(i) A folding, telescoping, or detachable
9 stock.
10 ‘‘(ii) A pistol grip.
11 ‘‘(iii) A fixed magazine with the capacity to
12 accept more than 5 rounds.
13 ‘‘(iv) The ability to accept a detachable
14 magazine.
15 ‘‘(v) A forward grip.
16 ‘‘(vi) A grenade launcher or rocket launch17
er.
18 ‘‘(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

I'll need the help of some Browning experts to verify this but I'm thinking Obama's Citori may qualify as a semi-automatic shotgun.  Although it does not "chamber" a round utilizing a portion of the energy to chamber the next round, the energy from the first round "cocks" the hammer to fire the second round.  Of course, a second pull of the trigger is required to fire the second round.  I know that's how my Beretta works, but I'm not as familiar with Brownings.

Secondly, the president's Browning most certainly has a "forward grip" - virtually all long guns do.  Additionally, it may have a telescoping stock.  I've seen a number of trap guns that have telescoping stocks so the shooter can adjust the LOP exactly to the length they want.  Again, I'm not sure if that is something with which this particular model of Citori is equipped from the factory, but it is certainly something that could be added.

Obama's Citori seems to have a barrel shroud as defined.

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‘‘(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—
16 ‘‘(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or
17 partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a fire18
arm so that the shroud protects the user of the fire19
arm from heat generated by the barrel; and
20 ‘‘(B) does not include—
21 ‘‘(i) a slide that partially or completely en22
closes the barrel; or
23 ‘‘(ii) an extension of the stock along the
24 bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or
25 substantially encircle the barrel.

Here is the telescoping stock verbiage:

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‘‘(41) The term ‘folding, telescoping, or detachable
9 stock’ means a stock that folds, telescopes, detaches or
10 otherwise operates to reduce the length, size, or any other
11 dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of a
12 firearm.

Here's a Browning Citori Trap gun that has such an "evil" stock.



What say you?

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Re: Is Obama's skeet gun a "semi-automatic assault weapon"?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 04:33:07 PM »
I doubt that it would be considered an "assault weapon" or semiautomatic.  I don't know about the newer citoris, but my 1973 model does not cock the second hammer with the first shot.  I can dry fire both barrels; although, it is necessary to slide the safety from the first barrel to the second to do this.  Additionally, dropping the hammer triggers the ejector for whichever barrel(s) has(have) been fired.

Given the definitions quoted, my citori would not qualify as a semi automatic shotgun.  Both (31) A and B are required and since my citori does not use the energy from a fired cartridge to extract said cartridge, dropping the hammer alone triggers the ejectors, it doesn't fit the definition.

Depending on how "F(v) A forward grip" is defined, every semi automatic shotgun could be an "assault weapon".
« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 04:35:43 PM by rudy »

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Re: Is Obama's skeet gun a "semi-automatic assault weapon"?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2013, 10:32:17 PM »
Even if he was pictured shooting skeet with a drum-fed Saiga-12, do you really think the hypocrisy would bother him?

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Re: Is Obama's skeet gun a "semi-automatic assault weapon"?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 10:51:17 PM »
The MO bill to confiscate guns would confiscate the Kenyans shotgun.

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Re: Is Obama's skeet gun a "semi-automatic assault weapon"?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2013, 09:29:30 AM »
The MO bill to confiscate guns would confiscate the Kenyans shotgun.
Looking through the full text of the MO bill at the link you provided in another thread (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/02/14/constitutional-crisis-democrats-introduce-bill-to-confiscate-firearms-in-missouri/) I see nothing that would state an over-under shotgun would be confiscated.  To qualify for confiscation in the proposed bill, the shotgun must be semi-automatic and have one or more of the listed attributes, or have a revolving cylinder.  I think it's clear that O/U shotguns aren't semi-automatic, unless you have an MO statute stating they are, I don't feel like looking.

As an aside, is it necessary to refer to him as Kenyan?