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RedDot:
Why would they need to cyber-snoop in the U.S.? Hell, anything they could possibly want to know they can find out just by asking the chinese military hackers. Could probably do it cheaper too!

bkoenig:
The Federal government will not stop until it has complete control over every meaningful aspect of our lives.  I hope it doesn't come to this in my daughter's or her children's lifetime, but I fear we are heading towards a breaking point in the not so distant future. 

just_me_mongo:
It's really sad that this is back.  I see that the Federal Govt. is out of control.  I believe that they will not stop either.  They will continue to grab & take until nothing is left....

GreyGeek:

--- Quote from: RedDot on February 19, 2013, 08:34:08 PM ---anything they could possibly want to know they can find out just by asking the chinese military hackers
--- End quote ---

That would be funny except that it is more true than most people realize.   AND, they don't  have to hack.   Their slave laborer, a.k.a. Chinese "citizens", makes most of the computer devices we use.   Most people do not know that in the 1980s the US gov had Texas Instruments put back doors in their printers and other devices.   When the F111's flew during Gulf War I the Iraqi high command couldn't print out orders because the US gov had disabled their printers.    I suspect that firmware back doors is how the Chinese hackers are getting in, even if the US gov runs Linux on  those computers. (Linux  keeps out all other hackers, though).

Phantom:

--- Quote from: GreyGeek on February 20, 2013, 08:41:52 AM --- I suspect that firmware back doors is how the Chinese hackers are getting in, even if the US gov runs Linux on  those computers. (Linux  keeps out all other hackers, though).
--- End quote ---

If it's true .....how do you know they didn't put the same into your system BIOS Proms

Could be your siting on-top of a Root virus right now and don't know it ....
If so windows, Linux, Mac or what ever won't help yea.


Cheery thoughts  for your morning

Phantom

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