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First traffic stop while carrying tonight
Gary:
Me, wrong? It has happened before. Not often, but it has happened.
The first time I was wrong, dates way back. I was about 5 or 6. My mother was remodeling our home, and I bet a neighbor kid two bucks, a 2 x 4 was a large nail with a head on it. Well, turns out, a 16 penny nail was a closer description, and he won the bet.
In our class, last weekend, our instructor told us the permit must be declared, even if you are not carrying a handgun. Possible, I misunderstood, or he taught me the wrong thing. I will look further into this.
00BUCK:
--- Quote from: NE Bull on February 20, 2013, 03:57:27 PM ---Maybe I'm just new-fashioned, but what is all this talk about the 'wife' driving your car and having to worry about YOUR CHP status or YOUR gun in the lock box. Shouldn't she be more worried about declaring HER CHP status and the location of HER firearm?
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The concern is that if you have a handgun in the glove box, or center console then it is accessible to all occupants. And if the cop wants to be a jerk (yeah, I know - would NEVER happen) he/she could easily charge your spouse, or other passengers with carrying concealed without a permit - if they don't have a permit.
This could possibly happen even if said location is locked - just depends on the LEO.
I can't even imagine my spouse not having her CHP - but I guess not every family operates the same.
00BUCK:
--- Quote from: Gary on February 20, 2013, 04:07:42 PM ---In our class, last weekend, our instructor told us the permit must be declared, even if you are not carrying a handgun. Possible, I misunderstood, or he taught me the wrong thing. I will look further into this.
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From the Nebraska State Patrol website:
019.02 A permit holder carrying a concealed handgun who is officially contacted by any peace officer or emergency services personnel must immediately inform the peace officer or emergency service personnel of the concealed handgun unless physically unable to do so.
Husker_Fan:
I would always inform the officer of my permit, even if not carrying. That's only because he will know about it when he runs my DL. I'd rather he not have the chance assume I'm armed and forgot or chose not to inform him.
Gary:
I can break a Glock down with one hand in the dark. The Glock is in bits on the dash in a zip lock bag before my tires touch the shoulder.
I had a flat by Sapp brothers, in the city limits of Omaha years ago. As I waited for a tow, an officer pulled up, approached on the grass, and when she saw my Glock parts on the dash, she started walking backwards in her same footprints in the grass, lit up her patrol car, crossed the median and took off in the other direction. Not a word. She easily hit 100mph when I lost sight of her.
A few minutes later, her boss arrived, with her close behind. She went for the grass again, while he approached normally. Asked if I was having trouble, and had I called a tow truck, I told him we were fine, and a tow truck was on the way. He said, I apologize for my deputy, she is fresh out of the academy, and I told her if she saw anything not covered in class, to come see me personally. I guess they never covered gun parts on the dash, so she got flustered and left. lol
Her boss, was very nice, and told me he appreciated me having my gun disassembled in that fashion, because it took all the tension out of the situation (at least for him). He told me it was a novel idea, and to have a nice day.
--- Quote from: sjwsti on February 20, 2013, 11:07:52 AM ---If someone told you this was a good idea, they were wrong. If this is something you came up with on your own forget it. This is not only completely unnecessary but dangerous.
Why in the world would you complicate a regular traffic stop by handling your weapon? How is an LEO supposed to know that you are unloading and disassembling your gun? Having a weapon in your hand during a traffic stop, whatever your intention might be, could get you shot. Thats obviously not good for you, and its also not good for the LEO that you put in that position.
I dont want to sound harsh, but didnt you recently complete a CCW course? Posting that you would even consider doing this may say something about the Instructor and their course. Or it may be that you simply didnt pay attention and have your own ideas about such matters (Im sure every Instructor on here has dealt with students that would fall into the category of "in one ear, out the other")
Dont take this personally. I just dont want to read about any CCW holder being mistakenly shot by LE because they were misinformed on how to act when stopped.
- Shawn
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