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First traffic stop while carrying tonight
JTH:
--- Quote from: candlewax20 on March 27, 2013, 02:21:34 PM ---Gary, I do not intend to sound rude or blunt in this comment but I am failing to understand your thought process. Put yourself in the LEO's shoes. He turns on his lights and he follows you to the shoulder. From the moment he turns on his lights he does not know much about you, at all, except for the fact that the vehicle your driving is not stolen, and has current tags, etc...
At this point there is not much stress for him. As he is following you to the shoulder he sees that you are holding/disassembling a firearm in the vehicle.
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I'm sure that Gary would perform such weapons manipulation below the level of what a police officer in a car behind him could see.
Remember that Gary said that he could unload, disassemble, and pack the firearm parts in a ziploc bag one-handed as he slowed down and came to a halt on the shoulder of the road. In that amount of time, while driving in such a fashion.
If the handgun was disassembled while being held low, the officer would see nothing, and Gary did say it would already be done by the time the officer made it to the car, so the officer would only see the results, which would be a pile of parts on the dashboard. And I'm sure that would indeed lower the stress level of the law enforcement officer.
And also, in that situation, the gun is no longer concealed, so he wouldn't even have to mention that he was a concealed carry permit holder.
candlewax20:
--- Quote from: jthhapkido on March 27, 2013, 02:55:59 PM ---I'm sure that Gary would perform such weapons manipulation below the level of what a police officer in a car behind him could see.
Remember that Gary said that he could unload, disassemble, and pack the firearm parts in a ziploc bag one-handed as he slowed down and came to a halt on the shoulder of the road. In that amount of time, while driving in such a fashion.
If the handgun was disassembled while being held low, the officer would see nothing, and Gary did say it would already be done by the time the officer made it to the car, so the officer would only see the results, which would be a pile of parts on the dashboard. And I'm sure that would indeed lower the stress level of the law enforcement officer.
And also, in that situation, the gun is no longer concealed, so he wouldn't even have to mention that he was a concealed carry permit holder.
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Not sure if serious.... :laugh:
CliffD:
Though I have a fairly decent long gun collection, I do not have a carry permit and don't own a handgun. I don't even go shooting that often since I am a single father, work full time and live in the heart of the city. When I do go shooting, my long guns are in individual cases and are locked inside my truck bed box. The ammo is located in a field bag under the back seat.
I got pulled over awhile back for having a tail light out. Knowing at least most of the CCP regulations when in contact with a law official, I approached it the same way...both of my hands remained on the steering wheel and I had my teen-age daughter lean forward with both hands on the dash board (the truck was shut off of course and my window was down). The Officer approached me and asked how I was doing. I replied "Fine, thank you. Officer, there are four legally owned long guns locked in the back of the truck and the ammo is under the rear seat. Would you like for me to step out of the truck?" He then asked if I had any hand guns, which I replied No. He looked over at my daughter and told her to sit back and relax. He then asked for my license, registration and proof of insurance. He came back a short while later with a fix it ticket and thanked me again for informing him of the guns. He never asked to check or even glanced at my tool box. He was actually very relaxed the entire time from the moment I mentioned the guns and their location.
I feel that any assurances I can give the Officer will go a LONG way in making his day better and of course, mine as well.
lightem up:
I live in Cass co. Got stopped 2 years ago when the officer came to my window and asked for my licence,reg,and proof of ins but I never said anything about my ccw because I wasn't carry in at the time. The officer came and said I see you have a ccw are you carry in? "I said no I was told by my instructor you only need to tell the officer if was carry in. He said that's right we just think I nice to know have a nice day. Important: if you are carry in give him your permit when you give him your licence and stuff the first time tell him right away or you'll wish you had. I heard the get pretty *****y if you don't.
JTH:
--- Quote from: candlewax20 on March 27, 2013, 03:03:20 PM ---Not sure if serious.... :laugh:
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Just making sure everyone was clear on what he claimed, and given that, it is a logical extension that he could do it below sight level.
;D
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