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First traffic stop while carrying tonight
Lorimor:
--- Quote from: bullit on February 20, 2013, 06:45:34 AM ---Gary you would be wrong on the above comment....a Nebraska CHP is in no way tied to your ones license plate. It is associated with your Driver's License/State ID card. It is also incorrect in that not INFORMING the LEO you are a permit holder is a felony....it is a Class III misdemeanor first offense and Class I misdemeanor for any second or subsequent with your permit subject to revocation. 028.02
As an instructor my advice to future and current CHP holders is simply comply with the officer's commands i.e. don't make any sudden or furtive movements before he/she gets to your car door. You may get more than you bargain for pulling your firearm, disassembling hurridly (sp?), etc. .... just my humble two cents.....
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Don't say nuthin' 'bout Texas either. :)
cckyle:
I forgot to mention...drivers side window was down and interior dome lights were on. If you are a CHP holder and are not armed, you do not have to declare that you are CHP holder. However I hear it is the courteous thing to do and most likely would do so if I was ever stopped unarmed (which will most likely never happen). I'm not sure if this officer knew when he was walking up to my window that I was a CHP holder. I get the feeling that he did not know, as he did not even turn his spot light on and didn't bother shining a flashlight in when he walked up. Maybe that was because I had my dome lights though. If he ran my plates (which are registered to me), then looked me up he could have known that I was a CHP holder ahead of time. But again I got the sense that he hadn't done that and was unaware. It was a pretty short time from when I pulled over until he was out the car and at my window.
I would not be caught disassembling a firearm as an officer walks up to my window. I would much rather have my hands on the wheel in plain sight as I tell him/her I am a CHP holder and am armed. That's what they taught in my class, and if I was an LEO I might feel a little uneasy if I walked up to a vehicle on a stop and the driver had a slide and frame in his or her hands.
This officer let me fumble through the glove box looking for my registration/proof of insurance with a loaded glock in that glove box. So either he knew he had a quicker draw than me, or my actions made the officer feel as though I was in no way a threat to him. I think it was the ladder of the two, and probably the first as well.
bullit:
--- Quote from: cckyle on February 20, 2013, 08:30:48 AM ---f you are a CHP holder and are not armed, you do not have to declare that you are CHP holder. However I hear it is the courteous thing to do and most likely would do so if I was ever stopped unarmed (which will most likely never happen). I'm not sure if this officer knew when he was walking up to my window that I was a CHP holder. I get the feeling that he did not know, as he did not even turn his spot light on and didn't bother shining a flashlight in when he walked up. Maybe that was because I had my dome lights though. If he ran my plates (which are registered to me), then looked me up he could have known that I was a CHP holder ahead of time.
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I think you handled it well. I would ALWAYS advise even if not carrying to inform them. It can't hurt and will make them feel better about you instead of when they come back after running your DL and seeing that you have a CHP...again just MY opinion. Again, there is NO connection with your license plates (personal or otherwise) related to your CHP. In short, he would not know until running your DL, you informing him, etc. etc.
Phantom:
--- Quote from: bullit on February 20, 2013, 06:45:34 AM ---Gary you would be wrong on the above comment....a Nebraska CHP is in no way tied to your ones license plate. It is associated with your Driver's License/State ID card. It is also incorrect in that not INFORMING the LEO you are a permit holder is a felony....it is a Class III misdemeanor first offense and Class I misdemeanor for any second or subsequent with your permit subject to revocation. 028.02
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The instructor I had was/is an Omaha Police officer
He told us when ever your Driver's License/State ID card is run by an officer (at least in the state) it flashes their computer screen some how.
I didn't get to ask if it did so when they ran the License plate or if it was just the Driver's License or State ID card that flashed it.
But I'd say it's a better practice to inform the Officer you have it regardless of if your carrying or not.
Could be it will save you from getting your Car tossed just to see if not telling them for some reason.
Or maybe they saw you were out drinking and want to check you out to see if your complying or not.
That brings up a thought I had ....You can't carry concealed if your drinking.... but putting your carry into a locked box is still concealing it.
So you need also to unload it too so you in compliance with the law.... right ?
I was kinda wondering if the wife would be questioned about any guns if she got pulled over driving my car or not if I wasn't in it.
Now i have all kinds of weird scenario's that just keep running through my mind since i took my class.
The Strangest Part was when I did my range qualification part of the class ...
It hit me Like when I first Joined the Army all those years ago.
I had to decide once again If I could kill someone else if needed.
And I'd tell anyone else thinking about gettin a CCP/CCW permit make no mistake if you ever have to pull and use your weapon it will be a Shoot to Kill situation.
It's one of those Sobering cold sweat type moments that i hope everyone goes through before deciding to carry outside the home.
Enough for me my heads starting to hurt thinking about it.
Phantom
LM4202:
--- Quote from: Phantom on February 20, 2013, 09:29:38 AM ---The instructor I had was/is an Omaha Police officer
He told us when ever your Driver's License/State ID card is run by an officer (at least in the state) it flashes their computer screen some how.
I didn't get to ask if it did so when they ran the License plate or if it was just the Driver's License or State ID card that flashed it.
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When an Officer runs data check on the plate, only the registration information comes up. When he does a data check on your DL, then the CHP permit status shows. The reason that your CHP permit is not tied to your license plate is that other people could be driving your vehicle, like your spouse or children. Which begs the question about other states tying CCW permit information to the license plates. Suppose you let your wife, or other relative drive your vehicle, and you are in a "must inform" state, and the LEO runs the plate, and it flashes that its tied to a CCW permit holder, so the LEO approaches the window expecting the driver to declare a firearm, but your wife or other person that you let your vehicle doesn't have one? Then it needs to get sorted out.
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