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bkoenig:
I wonder if that tactical pen can be carried on board a plane? I travel frequently for work, but since I work in the banking industry carrying is not an option when at a client site.
Edit: I just googled it and realized it's an actual ink pen. I thought it was a tool meant to look like a pen. So it should be able to carryon.
GreyGeek:
--- Quote from: zofoman on March 03, 2013, 09:24:42 AM --- "100 mgs of Succinylcholine Chloride"....do they sell that over the counter at CVS?
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It's not over the counter but by subscription as a muscle relaxant. Using Anectein, its pharmaceutical name, in Nebraska is illegal (It is legal in some states as the toxic material in what is called a "pod arrow", which makes up for poor shot placement), but it can be found in sporting goods stores in Alabama and other states where it is legal. It's also used as a covert weapon:
http://www.medgadget.com/2010/03/succinylcholine_a_perfect_poison_makes_appearance_in_the_dubai_murder.html
--- Quote ---100 mg of sux will depolarize every muscle in the body of a 70kg man in about 20 seconds.
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The fourth characteristic of succinylcholine is good news for assassins: sux is almost impossible to detect because its metabolites are all naturally occurring molecules. here’s how it works. Most molecules of succinylcholine break down in blood into succinylmonocholine and choline, thanks to a circulating enzyme called pseudocholinesterase. The process is so efficient that only a small fraction of sux molecules that were given actually reach neuromuscular junctions in the first place. Succinylmonocholine is subsequently hydrolyzed into succinic acid, or succinate, a naturally occurring substance well known to anyone who studied biochemistry. The reason succinate is so famous is because it is an important player in TCA (Krebs) cycle, a series of chemical reactions that powers all living cells that use oxygen.
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Wesley D:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on March 03, 2013, 12:15:30 PM ---I travel frequently for work, but since I work in the banking industry carrying is not an option when at a client site.
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Brian, here's a pretty good podcast that has suggestions for self defense on planes or in other places where you can't legally carry: http://www.thesurvivalpodcast.com/frank-sharpe-on-armed-and-unarmed-self-defense
You can actually carry one of the Cold Steel (or similar) canes on the plane with you, and due to the ADA, the TSA cannot discriminate against you.
zofoman:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on March 03, 2013, 12:15:30 PM ---I wonder if that tactical pen can be carried on board a plane? I travel frequently for work, but since I work in the banking industry carrying is not an option when at a client site.
Edit: I just googled it and realized it's an actual ink pen. I thought it was a tool meant to look like a pen. So it should be able to carryon.
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--- Quote from: zofoman on March 03, 2013, 07:46:45 AM --- <you> Can take the pen on the plane with you only if sufficiently packed in a folder/briefcase to where it appears to be just another pen via x-ray...just don't dare be wearing it in your pocket going through security...TSA is on to the variety of tactical pens out there and will confiscate.
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It's best to put it in a folder or in something in your carry on where one would normally put a generic writing instrument...parts are aluminum & steel so, it will sound off in a metal detector. If you put the cap on it so that the ball-point writing part is showing then less chance of getting a raised eyebrow during your luggage scan which could wind up in a discussion behind the curtain. So, best to not have it somewhere on your person until you have made it thru security. My oldest son travels more than I do and he takes these precautions....my youngest son is not allowed to have any defensive items due to his work...but, does carry his. It is after all, "technically" a writing instrument. There are all kinds of brands/versions out there...many on ebay. Uzi has their own "branded" version....we are partial to S&W branded items in our family.
Lorimor:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on March 03, 2013, 12:15:30 PM ---I wonder if that tactical pen can be carried on board a plane? I travel frequently for work, but since I work in the banking industry carrying is not an option when at a client site.
Edit: I just googled it and realized it's an actual ink pen. I thought it was a tool meant to look like a pen. So it should be able to carryon.
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The "stealth" "tactical" pen of choice is the Zebra F701. Cheap and fairly tough. It also doubles as an ink pen. :)
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