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Offline GreyGeek

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This is why we need to video EVERYTHING!
« on: March 14, 2013, 08:24:14 AM »
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2013/03/franklin_woman_threatens_to_br.html

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County tax assessor Robyn Glocker-Hammond told police that a woman who had been at the meeting was asked to leave the complex for causing a disturbance and making threats about coming back with a gun.
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Hart said outside of her home on Tuesday that she had come to the meeting to dispute the assessment of her home.
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Hart, who is Jewish, said Tuesday that her religion prevented her from letting a strange man into her house when her husband was not home. As a result, she could not let an inspector from Appraisal Systems inside. She said her house was assessed without being inspected.

As she began reading quotes from the Constitution to support her argument during the weekend meeting, Hart said she was escorted from the building by an Appraisal Systems employee. She denied making any threats.

"I didn't scream, I didn't yell," she said. "I have the right to air my grievances against the government in a public setting. I've never threatened anyone a day in my life."

Hart told the Examiner that the employees from Appraisal Systems, as well as the county tax assessor, took offense to her objections.
"She also wouldn't let me speak and told me to sit down and shut up and listen as well," Hart told the Examiner. That's when the young man came toward me. I knew he was going to put his hands on me. I saw him out of the corner of my eye. I said to him 'Don't you dare touch me.' Then they threw us out of the auditorium. The young man from Appraisal Systems, Inc. was the one going postal, and I believe if he had a gun, he would have shot me (and my family) on the spot. I was calm the entire time."
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Hart said she was told while she was in custody that she would have to hand over her two guns, a .357-caliber Smith & Wesson revolver and a .40-caliber Glock, for safekeeping in order to keep a judge from setting bail too high for her family to pay. She owns both guns legally and shoots regularly at a local range. Now, she feels that her Second Amendment rights have been violated.

"I have permits for each of them. I applied legally, I got them legally," she said. "Now I can't defend myself. I never said the word 'gun' at the meeting. None of those people would have even known I was a gun owner."

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Re: This is why we need to video EVERYTHING!
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 09:49:34 AM »
I read that story on The Blaze yesterday... Very frustrating to hear about. They're destroying home ownership with this stuff. You can have the EPA decide that it's a habitat that must be restored, or these guys taxing you right out of the place. Give up your freedom to keep us out of your house, or we'll just double your taxes.

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Re: This is why we need to video EVERYTHING!
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 11:14:15 AM »
I saw this on FB the other day.  It seems to me, reading between the lines, that the woman made a scene at the meeting and was escorted out for being disruptive.  She denies making a threat, but if she in fact did then the cops would be more than justified in taking the action that they did.  I tend to believe that there was some degree of probably cause there.

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« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2013, 12:31:53 PM »
I saw this on FB the other day.  It seems to me, reading between the lines, that the woman made a scene at the meeting and was escorted out for being disruptive.  She denies making a threat, but if she in fact did then the cops would be more than justified in taking the action that they did.  I tend to believe that there was some degree of probably cause there.
I just want to make sure that you saw the portion where they doubled her property value/taxes : ) We've been giving the government plenty of the benefit of doubt, and I'm not interested in doing it anymore.

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Re: This is why we need to video EVERYTHING!
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2013, 03:51:32 PM »
I just want to make sure that you saw the portion where they doubled her property value/taxes : ) We've been giving the government plenty of the benefit of doubt, and I'm not interested in doing it anymore.

That's a legit issue, but there are usually mechanism to appeal assessments.  Showing up at a public meeting and disrupting the process to "read the Constitution" sounds like she was being a pain in the ass.  After reading about the incident, I'm pretty sure the cops showed up at her house because she made the threat to return to the meeting with a gun, not because she challenged the property tax assessment.  You can be right on principle and totally wrong in approach.  My guess is that's the situation here.