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Who would be interested in a PRS-style match?
kozball:
Damn, I'd need to put Julie on retainer. :o My back hurts allready.
Looks to be a whole lot of fun, but not "old man" friendly. My un-educated questions would be.....
Is the match shot with just 1 rifle, or can you use more than 1, i.e. an AR type for the closer distances and a long range rifle of some sort? Retention requirement for side arms? as I see mine would fall out at the 1st shooting location.
Total round count? For those of us not reloading yet, availability and price becomes an issue.
How much running is involved? And I see competitors with lots of gear on and backpacks.
In the field CPR class imediately following. ;)
tobydog:
What calibers are used for this? I don't have any long range rifles per se. Have an AR, M1 Garand, and my 30.06 hunting rifles. (Plus bad kness, back, arms, hands, etc ;D :o )
wallace11bravo:
First, this is all still very hypothetical, as I am still just gauging interest at this point. Keep in mind that that video is from a **real** PRS match, we would only be PRS styled at this point, so I would be able to bend the rules (i.e. with spotting or sharing equipment), and nothing will be of the difficultly level that you saw in that vid.
--- Quote from: kozball on March 18, 2013, 02:10:42 PM ---Is the match shot with just 1 rifle, or can you use more than 1, i.e. an AR type for the closer distances and a long range rifle of some sort?
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This would be a solid NO. You will have to stick with one rifle the whole way. This is intended to be a "one man and his rifle" sort of thing. You will have to be able to carry all your equipment between stages. On any particular stage, you will have to carry all of the equipment you will use on that stage. You are normally not allowed to pre-place weapons, magazines, or any other gear. The distance between stages would be very manageable, probably only about a 3/4 of a mile total between 6 stages. Water would be provided, so you won't have to hump that.
--- Quote from: kozball on March 18, 2013, 02:10:42 PM ---Retention requirement for side arms? as I see mine would fall out at the 1st shooting location.
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Normally, yes, you must have at least level 2 retention, and you would be required to carry your sidearm through all stages.
However, I can modify the rules for those who do not have solid retention, you would just have to lock and clear before you could move on in the stage. You would only be required to carry your sidearm on stages with pistol targets. For youth shooters or others who are not comfortable with pistols, we would work around this.
--- Quote from: kozball on March 18, 2013, 02:10:42 PM ---Total round count? For those of us not reloading yet, availability and price becomes an issue.
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Right now, I am looking at/thinking about 80 rifle and 30 pistol, but you would not use all except in a worst case scenario.
You would be able to police up brass after everyone is done with a stage, I would suggest marking your brass for easy identification.
--- Quote from: kozball on March 18, 2013, 02:10:42 PM ---How much running is involved? And I see competitors with lots of gear on and backpacks.
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For what I have in mind right now, there would only be a couple of stages with any running, and it would not be very far, probably 50 yards at the longest. After I set up, and I go through and prove the course and figure out minimum times, I will not be at a full sprint.
On the actual stage, you would only be required to carry what you will use on that particular stage. There will be more than one stage where all you should need is your rifle, and you can ground the rest of your gear while you are shooting. I would suggest *being able* to carry at least 20 rounds (in mags or loose for single feeding), a LRF or calculator for MRF, and a rear bag, pistol, and one spare pistol magazine, at minimum.
Again, alot of this is outside of normal PRS rules, but that is why this would be a PRS **styled** match :)
wallace11bravo:
--- Quote from: tobydog on March 18, 2013, 08:00:27 PM ---What calibers are used for this? I don't have any long range rifles per se. Have an AR, M1 Garand, and my 30.06 hunting rifles. (Plus bad kness, back, arms, hands, etc ;D :o )
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I'm glad someone asked.
First, an explanation of how the stages are run by the match admins. While you are shooting there are 3 different ROs working:
Safety: This is what I will be doing. I'll be at the firing point and running with you and whatnot, making sure you are safe and that you are following the stage correctly. There are some little idiosyncrocies with the safety aspects of matches like this (i.e. if someone forgets to dial for a new target, they could end up sending a round over the horizon), so this is a very labor intensive part of the whole thing.
Caller: Watching and listening for hits. On some stages, you will need to tell him which target you are going for so he knows which target to watch. This is especially true if it is windy and impacts are hard to hear.
Scorekeeper:Writing down your hits. Until you initial on the score sheet after the stage is done, you may contest your score if you think there was a mistake, but the ROs have the final say. Some targets are worth more than others, so the Caller will say "Impact Alpha" indicating the target hit so that the scorekeeper knows how many points to give.
Caliber Selection: The majority of targets are static and reactive steel. Hits will be called by sight and sound, but if the Caller could not see or hear your hit, it is not counted. I suggest a balance between performance and terminal energy. Max caliber will be 338.
I witnessed a bolt action .223 take 3rd place recently. Don't fret about caliber.
Most common is still .308, but .223 still sees some action, and 260 and 6.5 are quite popular among the pros, but they also have sponsors who can pay for a new barrel every year :)
sparky0068:
Interested
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