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Dan W:
Can we agree that we are under no obligation to go above and beyond the law in disarming ourselves?
Conspicuous signage is required. If you have to go looking for it then it by definition is not meeting the requirements set out in the law.
I will not waste any more of my time in an attempt to disqualify my self from the benefit of armed self defense.
When I walk through the door, and no conspicuous signage is present ,I feel confident that I have met my obligation, and until I am informed differently by the management, I feel that I have broken no laws.
It is not my intent to ignore legal signage, but the burden of legally notifying me of a CCW ban rests with those that put up the sign
bbtech:
I stopped at Ideal Grocery and Market at 905 S. 27th in Lincoln the other day to get some cheese and they have posted no carry signs. Too bad, I really like their cheese selection.
huskergun:
I could agree more Dan. If the sign is not put up in the right place the burden is off my shoulders and is on them. If I don't see it where it is supposed to be then I also feel that I have every right to carry concealed.
Furthermore, I was really surprised on my trip to Texas that I saw more No carry signs in Oklahoma than anywhere else. I would have thought they would be more pro then anti. Maybe I was in the wrong place. In Texas I have seen none. Kansas I saw one.
--- Quote from: Dan W on December 23, 2009, 06:08:38 PM ---Can we agree that we are under no obligation to go above and beyond the law in disarming ourselves?
Conspicuous signage is required. If you have to go looking for it then it by definition is not meeting the requirements set out in the law.
I will not waste any more of my time in an attempt to disqualify my self from the benefit of armed self defense.
When I walk through the door, and no conspicuous signage is present ,I feel confident that I have met my obligation, and until I am informed differently by the management, I feel that I have broken no laws.
It is not my intent to ignore legal signage, but the burden of legally notifying me of a CCW ban rests with those that put up the sign
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bkoenig:
--- Quote from: huskergun on December 27, 2009, 09:04:26 PM ---I could agree more Dan. If the sign is not put up in the right place the burden is off my shoulders and is on them. If I don't see it where it is supposed to be then I also feel that I have every right to carry concealed.
Furthermore, I was really surprised on my trip to Texas that I saw more No carry signs in Oklahoma than anywhere else. I would have thought they would be more pro then anti. Maybe I was in the wrong place. In Texas I have seen none. Kansas I saw one.
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I used to travel to Texas for work a lot and the only place I ever saw a no handguns sign was in banks, but that's the line of work I'm in so that's probably the only reason I noticed it. I've always liked Texans, they're good people.
OnTheFly:
--- Quote from: DaveB on December 21, 2009, 06:30:51 PM ---This is posted under "Prohibited Places And Premises"
018.01G Financial institutions as defined by Nebraska Revised Statutes
? 8-101(12);
This is the definition:
018.02 A financial institution, notwithstanding Section 018.01G above, may
authorize its security personnel to carry a concealed handgun while on duty so
long as the security personnel have a concealed handgun permit and are in
compliance with the law.
The way I read this is that it is illegal to carry a concealed gun in a bank in Nebraska unless you are security. I also read somewhere that it is a federal law if the bank is FDIC insured.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
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69-2441. Permitholder; locations; restrictions; posting of prohibition; consumption of alcohol; prohibited.
(1)(a) A permitholder may carry a concealed handgun anywhere in Nebraska, except any: Police, sheriff, or Nebraska State Patrol station or office; detention facility, prison, or jail; courtroom or building which contains a courtroom; polling place during a bona fide election; meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or other political subdivision; meeting of the Legislature or a committee of the Legislature; financial institution; professional or semiprofessional athletic event; building, grounds, vehicle, or sponsored activity or athletic event of any public, private, denominational, or parochial elementary, vocational, or secondary school, a private postsecondary career school as defined in section 85-1603, a community college, or a public or private college, junior college, or university; place of worship; hospital, emergency room, or trauma center; political rally or fundraiser; establishment having a license issued under the Nebraska Liquor Control Act that derives over one-half of its total income from the sale of alcoholic liquor; place where the possession or carrying of a firearm is prohibited by state or federal law; a place or premises where the person, persons, entity, or entities in control of the property or employer in control of the property has prohibited permitholders from carrying concealed handguns into or onto the place or premises; or into or onto any other place or premises where handguns are prohibited by state law.
Are you asking if you can normally carry in a bank/financial institution if it is not posted and you are not one of their security guards? If so, then no. It is prohibited as listed in the excerpt above. Let me know if I am misunderstanding your question.
Fly
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