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Brandishing a Weapon
depserv:
--- Quote from: omahasnake on April 03, 2013, 09:57:46 AM ---This is an awesome example of what NOT to do when officially approached by LEO's...he got out of the vehicle, did NOT inform the LEO that he was a permit holder until he was face down and handcuffed...I am not at all surprised at the reaction of the officer...he sees a guy with a gun...how he is to know if he is a threat or not?
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Maybe the guy hadn't had much experience with police. The officer could have told him to stay in his vehicle, or get back into it. There used to be something called presumption of innocence. The guy should have stayed in his vehicle, and he should have informed the officer right away that he had a permit to carry and was armed. But the officer did still overreact. And he was the one in charge. He's supposed to be the professional. If he would overreact like he did in this situation what might he do in another one?
Randy Weaver did things he shouldn't have done, but did that make it ok for federal police to murder his wife and son?
Hank:
--- Quote from: Randy on April 02, 2013, 10:35:10 PM ---Getting out of your vehicle before being told pisses off the LEO's very time.
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This, plus what Bucket said.
Marvin Ammons comes to mind. (IIRC..that was his name)
I could be totally wrong, but my thoughts on the definition of `brandishing a weapon`, would mean to display in an aggressive manor..say like showing it in a angry fashion to the guy who just cut you off in traffic.
Me thinks, leave it put away untill you have no other choice.
rudy:
Florida does not require one to inform a LEO that one is carrying a concealed weapon immediately upon official contact, only if asked by the officer. The man did nothing wrong, really; although, it was illegal to have a concealed weapon show at that time in Florida (2009). My assessment is that the cop was terrified when he saw a holster and overreacted. How many criminals carry in holsters? Probably not many. Logically, if a criminal needs to ditch a piece quickly, a holster takes more time to remove, and if the holster isn't chucked and is discovered by police, they will obviously try to locate the pistol.
I come from a state where it isn't necessary to inform unless asked. I know that from reading other people's opinions here that some won't agree with me, but I would prefer to have the option to not inform a LEO when carrying. My thinking is that the safest place for my weapon is in my holster. If the LEO doesn't know it is there, it isn't going to get removed and fiddled with. Concealed is concealed. There are practical limitations to this, of course, for example if I am asked to do something that would expose the weapon, I would inform as to not surprise the LEO. But, since I am in NE now, I don't have the choice and have to inform immediately. Oh well.
bullit:
Some good thoughts on "brandishing" from one our NFOA Sponsors.....
http://armedcitizensnetwork.org/our-journal/252-january-2012?start=10
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