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Concealed Handgun Permit Question
JimP:
My point is that it is a shame that we have to tiptoe...... that is not to say we should go stomping about. It just galls me that any policeman, at his "discretion"' can nail your hide to the barn door with a "disturbing the peace" charge because somone saw your gun, if he feels like it. The Right to Keep and BEAR Arms is enshrined explicitly in both our State and Federal Constitutions, yet most of us are afraid to actually excercise that Right, for very good reason: there is a good chance of being arrested........ and THAT is a damned shame.
armed and humorous:
I totally agree, Jim.
Jesse T:
Banks are not prohibited for open carry are they? So theoretically you could just uncover your gun when you step in the bank. Somebody do that and lets see how well THAT goes over. *rolls eyes*
I am totally on board though, it sucks we have to be so careful. And the worst part is that it isn't fear of doing somethign wrong or illegal, it is fear of being locked up and all your money tied up in a years-long legal battle!!!
armed and humorous:
Not sure about open carry in a bank, but that's probably one of the last places I would try it!
Here's another question regarding CHP. It seems in my reading of 430, that they have changed the proper procedure for permit holders entering posted property with a handgun in their vehicle. They struck out the section that said we were not in violation of carrying on posted property as long as the handgun did not leave the vehicle. Now, it says "prior to exiting the vehicle, the handgun is locked inside the glove box, trunk, or other compartment of the vehicle, a storage box securely attached to the vehicle, or, if the vehicle is a motorcycle, a hardened compartment securely attached to the motorcycle." Would simply locking the doors to the vehicle suffice? Or, does the gun need to be in the glovebox, trunk, etc.? In my truck, for example, I would consider the entire interior to be the passenger compartment, so if I locked the doors, the gun would be in an "other compartment of the vehicle" wouldn't it? At the same time, anyone, even a non CHP holder, can have a gun on school grounds as long as it is "encased" and not loaded. It doesn't even have to be locked up.
Jesse T:
I understand that it may not be a great idea (see my above reply about needing a lawyer on retention for excersizing your rights). However my point is that there is no law against carrying in a private bank. The bank could have a no weapons policy or signs on the door and ask you to leave so at the very most I think you could be cited for trespassing if you refused to leave. But there is no law saying you can't open carry there.
As for your question about compartments, it'd probably be a legal battle for your lawyers to fight over, if it came down to it. Why would you leave your expensive handgun sitting out on your car's seat anyway?
[opinion]Basically if you leave your guns in an unlocked car or out in the open, you're not too responsible a gun owner to start with and probably deserve to get them stolen. [/opinion]
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