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Rent-a-cops consider magazine suspicious
cckyle:
So I went down to the DMV today to pay for registration and get my tags. First off, this is in Dodge County....Fremont, and occassionally they have rent-a-cops there that make you take everything out of your pockets and walked through a metal detector before entering to make sure you don't bring any weapons inside the building. The last time I checked it was signal 88 that was working. I didn't really pay attention today, but I believe that was who was there today. So anyways I locked my pistol up in my truck and walked in to see that they were there today. One guy asked me to empty my pockets then take my coat and belt off and put them through the scanner. Now I carry a spare glock 17 magazine with me in a coat pocket, which I had taken out and put in the tray and really didn't think anything of it. After the tray with the contents of my pockets went through the scanner I hear the one guy say to the other, "this guy has a clip, that's a clip right there." The other guy picks it up, looks at it, and comments, "That's for a glock", as he sets it on top of the scanner. Then he looks at me and asks, "where's the gun." I replied, "it's in my vehicle." (I wish I would have just said it's not on my person, but that was after thought). So after picking up the rest of my things from the tray I asked, "can I get that back or..." Then the guy says, "you can have it back when you leave."
I shook my head and went in to register my vehicle and came back out to grab the magazine and left the building. Maybe I shouldn't think twice about this situation but there are a couple things here that bother me.
1. What was it that they found dangerous about that magazine that they thought it was necessary to hold onto my property? I was allowed to take my flashlight and keys into the building.
2. The way he asked me "where is the gun." Hello, I just gave you my coat, belt, the contents of my pockets, and then walked through a metal detector, it's obviously not on my person, so what is it any of this guys business where I store my guns.
And 3. The first guy called my magazine a clip.... common
Gary:
Last things first. Magazine and clip are all the same in todays lingo. I am old enough to remember the term GAY meaning enjoying the dance. Words slide over time, and what was a magazine 30years ago, in todays couture is more likely to be called a mag or a clip. I do the same thing. Get used to it.
The glock mag, in your pocket, walking into a courthouse. OOPS. Error in good judgment. Loaded mag? I am surprised you did not end up with a LEO and a set of handcuffs, while they searched your car. One day after a bombing in Boston, tensions are running high, and check point staff I am sure are under orders to flag anything out of place. Walking into a courthouse with a loaded mag would be cause for concern.
bullit:
I assume the DMV is in the court house thus the metal detector. I think you handled it fine and wouldn't sweat it. I suppose semantics otherwise in answering where your HG is/was as long as it does not go past their metal detector.
Several years ago went through a similar situation at the old courthouse in Saunders Co. Secured my HG in my vehicle, but "surrendered" my knives and magazines at the metal detector. Took care of my business and gave me back my stuff no questions asked. I understand securing the knives as they can be construed as a weapon. The ammo....I guess no problem. Presently when I have to go down and register, etc I just leave everything in the car to save the "hassle" although I know the guys at the metal detector.
NENick:
--- Quote from: Gary on April 16, 2013, 12:45:58 PM ---Last things first. Magazine and clip are all the same in todays lingo. I am old enough to remember the term GAY meaning enjoying the dance. Words slide over time, and what was a magazine 30years ago, in todays couture is more likely to be called a mag or a clip. I do the same thing. Get used to it.
The glock mag, in your pocket, walking into a courthouse. OOPS. Error in good judgment. Loaded mag? I am surprised you did not end up with a LEO and a set of handcuffs, while they searched your car. One day after a bombing in Boston, tensions are running high, and check point staff I am sure are under orders to flag anything out of place. Walking into a courthouse with a loaded mag would be cause for concern.
--- End quote ---
Words have meaning. Use them correctly. A mag isn't a gun and no crime was committed. I believe that the security guard's mission is to stop guns, knives, etc. If it isn't a gun, a knife, or a bomb, they probably shouldn't be taking it.
cckyle:
Yes DMV is in the courthouse, and yes it was loaded (what good is an unloaded magazine?). I always think to myself after going through this that before going in next time I will just empty my pockets and everything before going in, but always manage to forget the next time. After locking up my handgun, I didn't think twice about what was in my pockets and really didn't think twice when I put the magazine in the tray. What am I going to do with a magazine?
Handcuffs and my vehicle searched? For what? I can't imagine this would warrant that. I would have definitely been very upset to say the least if that would have happened.
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