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Open Carry...*gasp*
wusker:
--- Quote from: jthhapkido on June 13, 2013, 03:24:43 PM --- I see no reason to continue this part of the conversation.
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about the only thing you two are arguing about, I agree on.
GreyGeek:
A town that required gun AND ammunition ownership is not new.
http://rense.com/general9/gunlaw.htm
--- Quote ---KENNESAW, Ga - Several Kennesaw officials attribute a drop in crime in the city over the past two decades to a law that requires residents to have a gun in the house.
In 1982, the Kennesaw City Council unanimously passed a law requiring heads of households to own at least one firearm with ammunition.
The ordinance states the gun law is needed to "protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants."
Then-councilman J.O. Stephenson said after the ordinance was passed, everyone "went crazy."
"People all over the country said there would be shootings in the street and violence in homes," he said. "Of course, that wasn't the case."
In fact, according to Stephenson, it caused the crime rate in the city to plunge.
Kennesaw Historical Society president Robert Jones said following the law's passage, the crime rate dropped 89 percent in the city, compared to the modest 10 percent drop statewide.
"It did drop after it was passed," he said. "After it initially dropped, it has stayed at the same low level for the past 16 years."
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I'd call that law a rousing success!
Nelson, GA., more recently, did the same thing:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/0402/Georgia-city-requires-gun-ownership-in-all-households-after-new-ordinance
--- Quote ---The ordinance in the city of Nelson, Georgia — population 1,300 — was approved Monday night and goes into effect in 10 days. However, it contains no penalties and exempts anyone who objects, convicted felons and those with certain mental and physical disabilities.
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Fears of a government crackdown on gun sales have prompted a few communities around the United States to "require" or recommend their residents arm themselves, reflecting a growing divide in the wake of the Newtown massacre.
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Police Chief Heath Mitchell noted that the city doesn't have police officers who work 24 hours a day and is far from the two sheriff's offices that might send deputies in case of trouble, so response times to emergency calls can be long. Having a gun would help residents take their protection into their own hands, he said.
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Of course, no good deed goes unpunished. A group that thinks its wisdom exceeds that of officials elected by a majority of the community has sued Nelson, GA.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/05/18/georgia-town-sued-over-law-requiring-gun-ownership/
The Brady Center's argument is exactly like that of OOBUCK's.
--- Quote ---The Washington-based Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence filed a federal lawsuit against the town of Nelson, about 50 miles north of Atlanta, claiming the law is unconstitutional. The suit contends the Second Amendment doesn't require anyone to have a gun, and government cannot require citizens to arm themselves.
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I'm not a lawyer but I wonder why the Brady Center thinks it has any standing to file this lawsuit. The law exempts anyone who doesn't want to own a gun, felons and folks with mental problems, so the Brady Center's contention that it "forces" people to buy guns is bogus.
00BUCK:
--- Quote from: bullit on June 14, 2013, 07:32:28 AM ---OO Buck..... ....does that include Dungeons and Dragons ??? (You know I'm just bustin' your chops :) )
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HA! Good one sir, good one!
SS_N_NE:
--- Quote from: GreyGeek on June 14, 2013, 03:39:44 PM ---I wonder why the Brady Center thinks it has any standing to file this lawsuit.
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Much like any other lobby. They have the money to push legal issues to the point of financial concern. If the money burden becomes great enough, it can force change.
Unfortunately our legal system lets lawyers and judges get paid for anything someone might dispute. It is win/win for the legal end of things...they win no matter what happens to others involved. That expense is enough to break individuals and entities.
AWick:
I know I'm a little late to the party on this discussion as I just recently joined the forum and have been trying to catch up on topics and the culture around here.
I thought that in this discussion I would add that even if you are open carrying that it would be beneficial to take a CHP class and get your permit. Not only for the override of Omaha and other city ordinances but also so that you learn the laws and situation lessons for the use of force statutes for NE. Should you ever have to deploy your firearm it would also help you have an additional defense of being more trained than the average citizen in use of force scenarios.
I also see your point as far as being a small female with a "don't even try it buddy" warning on your hip verses an attacker thinking "what an easy target, no way is SHE armed"
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