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Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« on: May 24, 2013, 01:23:39 PM »

Herndon ordinance supports Kansas Second Amendment Protection Act
Thursday, May 23, 2013

McCook Daily Gazette


HERNDON, Kansas -- City council members of a small Northwest Kansas town have adopted an ordinance -- with the power of a law -- that reaffirms their belief in their constitutional and Second Amendment right to own and bear arms.

Herndon Mayor Kenny Chartier said Wednesday that Herndon's new law, Ordinance No. 510, supports the State of Kansas and the "Second Amendment Protection Act" that Gov. Sam Brownback signed into law April 16.

Chartier said that four of five city council members signed Herndon's new ordinance on May 7. The fifth council member was planting his corn and was absent, Chartier said.

"What our ordinance says is, "Yeah! We're with you,'," Chartier said. "We're not telling the federal government anything special ... anything new. We're supporting Kansas. It is our sovereign right to own guns. It's not the federal government's right to say we can't."

The ordinance makes federal efforts to infringe upon the Second Amendment unenforceable in Herndon, stating that "no agency of the city or employee of the city shall enforce, provide material support for, or participate in any way in the enforcement of any act, law, treaty, order, rule or regulation of the government of the United States regarding personal firearms, firearms accessories or ammunition" within Herndon.

Chartier explained, "Back in the 1800s, Kansas had its own Constitution, and it was in line with the United States' Constitution." Section Four of the Kansas Bill of Rights guarantees a person's right to keep and bear arms "for the defense of self, family, home and state, for lawful hunting and recreational use, and for any other lawful purposes."

Herndon's ordinance refers back to the time, in 1861, when Kansas became a state and affirmed its commitment to the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution that reserves to the people, individually, the right to keep and bear arms in the defense of self, family, home and state.

What Brownback's protection act and Herndon's ordinance do, Chartier said, is state that "anything against the Second Amendment, Kansas will nullify it. It goes back to our roots, and our right to bear arms."

Chartier said his concerns have been triggered by the federal government making gun laws that affect legal gun owners and users. "It's crazy for the federal government to make laws for law-abiding citizens, to make new laws for people not doing the crimes, when it's not upholding and enforcing the thousands of laws on the books now," Chartier said.

It's not the law-abiding citizen (including those with concealed-carry permits) who carries a gun into a gun-free zone such as a school, Chartier said. "Who in the world is carrying guns there? It's not the law-abiding citizen you should be afraid of. Gun-free zones are actually danger zones. Only criminals carry guns into them, and then it's a turkey shoot -- no one's going to be shooting back."

Chartier said he's 52 years old, and went to high school in the 1970s with a shotgun in the gun rack of his pickup -- like just about every other kid in his school. "It was no big deal -- and we didn't have mass shootings back then," he said.

Chartier said he has no problem with federal regulations regarding the purchase and sale of fully-automatic firearms. "People have a right to own them," he said. "But there's a process, and it can take a year. You can't be on the crazy watch list, and there's a tax. I have no problem with that." He continued, "It's not the people who do this legally you have to worry about."

Federal law does prohibit felons from owning firearms. "But they've broken the law, and have been convicted," Chartier said. "They've lost the right (to own guns) guaranteed them in the Second Amendment. They no longer have the right to own guns."
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 07:54:38 PM »
My family has alot of deep roots in Herndon Kansas. I applaud them and everyone from
Kansas for their efforts in strengthening their 2nd. Amendment rights. WHY!!! Can't we get
something similar passed in Nebraska????????
"The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good"-- George Washington

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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 08:11:31 PM »
My family has alot of deep roots in Herndon Kansas. I applaud them and everyone from
Kansas for their efforts in strengthening their 2nd. Amendment rights. WHY!!! Can't we get
something similar passed in Nebraska????????
I know right!  I don't live far from Herndon I told my hubby if all else fails we are moving there LOL.
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 08:38:44 PM »
I know right!  I don't live far from Herndon I told my hubby if all else fails we are moving there LOL.
My wife and I both grew up in McCook and graduate from MHS. I think the reason these bills don't
pass here is it's just to costly to dredge the Missouri river west of Omaha.
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 08:43:26 PM »
Kinda a rookie at this. Doesn't help when you post on your phone.
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 09:11:20 PM »
Good job Herndon.  Both my grandparents are from there with quite a bit of family still around.  I was just down there a few months ago for a funeral. 

And yes...It'd be nice if Nebraska would pass the same thing.

« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 09:27:03 PM by M7025-06 »
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 09:31:06 PM »
All this chat about Herndon is making me hungry for Pooch's pizza.  Maybe before your time?
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 09:41:30 PM »
All this chat about Herndon is making me hungry for Pooch's pizza.  Maybe before your time?

I hear ya there.

I remember Pooch...met the man himself when I was younger.  I think I remember my mom telling me he was a cousin of my Grandpa's (or Great-Grandpa)...could be wrong though.


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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 10:30:35 PM »
BTW, not to take Dan's job.... but... don't post full news stories like that.  A link the story, and a paragraph or two, and your own thoughts would be the typical suggested way to do so.

edit: see the post here about it: http://nebraskafirearms.org/forum/index.php/topic,4681.0.html


The original article:

http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1972010.html
« Last Edit: May 24, 2013, 10:38:11 PM by unfy »
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 10:37:01 PM »
Glad to see another jurisdiction sticking up for liberty though :)
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Re: Herndon, Kansas takes a stand.
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2013, 12:23:41 PM »
Opps sorry I did put in the credits though so I didn't think I was doing anything wrong.  I'll get it right next time. 
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