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Looking to start in USPSA, have some questions
JTH:
--- Quote from: David Hineline on August 09, 2013, 12:23:49 PM ---I suggest you shoot limited class and shoot the gun the way you want to?
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Limited division is fun. Of course, Limited minor with low capacity magazines (compared to the rest of the people in the division) isn't nearly as fun.
Or instead, as was said, simply shoot the gun in the division it fits, and manually drop the hammer at make ready. Works perfectly well, as the many others who shoot CZs in Production will tell you. :)
--- Quote ---If not interested in racing, and racing guns, there is a group shooting IDPA at Big Shots in Lincoln. You can get on their email list and get copied on their shooting schedule.
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Just a note: There's an entire division of USPSA for people who don't have racing guns, nor are they needed---and while IDPA is a perfectly decent sport on its own, using IDPA to subtly denigrate USPSA is not useful.
By all means, everyone should try IDPA. And USPSA. After all, it isn't an either/or proposition. And people with non-racing guns work perfectly well in USPSA. (Matter of fact, Production division tends to have the largest number of shooters at the ENSP monthly matches.)
Thinking about it further, my G34 works in IDPA's SSP division---and would be considered "stock" and thus I wouldn't have to shoot it in ESP. And that's the gun I use for USPSA Production division, so I'm thinking "race gun"---not so much.
Brian asked about USPSA, so people answered about USPSA. People interested in competition should indeed check out both USPSA and IDPA.
bkoenig:
I was looking at Production because as I understand it if I were to compete in Limited I would be at a disadvantage due to being in Minor power factor (it's a 9mm). I'm not really concerned about decocking, if you pay attention it's easy to do safely. I was just surprised that it requires the hammer to be fully lowered. That seems kind of backwards when a half cock notch is available. Not a big deal, I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.
The reason I was planning on trying USPSA is because most of the people I know who shoot competitively shoot that. ;D. I do plan to try IDPA, also.
JTH:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on August 09, 2013, 09:25:25 PM ---I'm not really concerned about decocking, if you pay attention it's easy to do safely. I was just surprised that it requires the hammer to be fully lowered. That seems kind of backwards when a half cock notch is available. Not a big deal, I just wanted to make sure I understood correctly.
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If I recall correctly, this was added to the rules (hammer fully down) due to the fact that on certain guns, "half-cocked" actually takes out some of the trigger pull weight and the trigger pre-travel---and it is certainly true that firearms manufacturers (who build some gun versions specifically for competition) would certainly create DA/SA guns with a "half-cocked" position that was far closer to their SA weight than their DA weight.
Gamers, all of 'em.
:)
75B will work just great in Production---and you might talk to John Victor about CZs at the range sometime, because I believe he has the most experience with using CZs in USPSA out of the local folks who shoot.
David Hineline:
9mm is a disadvantage only if you miss the A zone. I was not denigrating USPSA, I just did not see a reason he would want to shoot in production class over limited. He has explained.
Ross Berck:
--- Quote from: OnTheFly on August 08, 2013, 03:09:44 PM ---I think this is more gun specific instead of division specific. A traditional 1911 for example has to obviously be in a different state than my XDm.
I think 8.1.2.2 would apply to your CZ and "...hammer fully down..." says to me that it can not be half-cocked.
Fly
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The CZ75B would fall into the 8.1.2.3"selective" category. It can be carried hammer down or cocked and locked(hammer back safety on). The B series cz75s have a firing pin block so the firing pin cannot move unless the trigger is pulled. I dont know about the class issue...I say shoot a class that allows you to function like you were carrying the gun as ccw. The rest is a waste of time IMHO
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