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White House eyes 'gun trust' loophole
AWick:
The thing that ticks me off is how white washed the news release and speech are to the true extent of regulations that are changing. Saying things like felons will "now" be required to have a background check and be prohibited makes it sound like that is the only thing they are changing... even though that has almost nothing to do with the changes... I've never pursued an NFA item or anything, but that might change with his deep of a FUBAR...
66bigblock:
--- Quote from: FarmerRick on August 29, 2013, 09:26:31 AM ---
under the new policy, only museums and a few other entities like the government will be eligible to reimport military-grade firearms.
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I would like to announce the future opening of the "66bigblock museum of historical military grade automatic weapons" opening soon in my garage! ;D
66bigblock
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: AWick on August 29, 2013, 12:45:19 PM ---The thing that ticks me off is how white washed the news release and speech are to the true extent of regulations that are changing. Saying things like felons will "now" be required to have a background check and be prohibited makes it sound like that is the only thing they are changing... even though that has almost nothing to do with the changes... I've never pursued an NFA item or anything, but that might change with his deep of a FUBAR...
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Over at the Prince Law Blog, attorney Tom Odom posted these excellent tutorials on the proposed rule changes, the rulemaking process in general, and commenting on proposed regulations in particular:
http://blog.princelaw.com/2013/08/29/white-house-announcement-of-regulatory-gun-control-initiatives/
http://blog.princelaw.com/2013/08/29/preparing-effective-comments-on-proposed-regulations/
CitizenClark:
It looks like NFATCA sold out trusts and corporations in some misguided attempt to make things easier for individual transferees: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/inside-atf/2013/082913-wash-machine-guns-destructive-devices-and-certain-other-firearms.pdf
Looks like those here who were criticizing NFATCA were correct. I sent these emails to them:
--- Quote ---I am a member of the NFATCA, and I have some questions about the organization's involvement with the development of the proposed changes to the regulations governing the making and transfer of NFA firearms by trusts, corporations, and other business entities.
Does this document accurately describe NFATCA's petition to ATF?: https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files/assets/inside-atf/2013/082913-wash-machine-guns-destructive-devices-and-certain-other-firearms.pdf
If so, could you please explain why NFATCA would have "expressed concern" about trusts and corporations and the less onerous process by which they may be transferred NFA firearms? (See page 10, second paragraph)
Thanks,
XXXXX
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--- Quote ---I see that you posted this statement on the organization's Facebook page:
"DOJ/ATF has taken one germ of our petition and created a huge expansion of paperwork with no real benefit. I absolutely can see how folks will want to blame us for this. Sadly DOJ/ATF has chosen to ignore what we were after in exchange for a political expedient. We filed the petition years ago to force ATF to begin the conversation. We knew there were areas of concern and acknowledged them. We wanted to be involved in defining who responsible parties were. We wanted to be involved with designing the infrastructure to support the process. We wanted CLEO signatures eliminated, which would have REDUCED the number of trust and corp purchases. We wanted to participate in the deliberations. Sadly DOJ/ATF has chosen to ignore what we were after in exchange for a political expedient. We will have an official statement after we have consulted with our attorney for options in addressing the current situation."
"When and if this actually does make it to the Federal Register we encourage everyone to vigorously oppose the actions."
This is what happens when people who don't understand the regulatory process talk to regulators. I am a public policy professional, and under no circumstances should you have conceded anything that the ATF could use to create more onerous restrictions on trust transfers or any other non-individual transfers, especially since there are co-ownership advantages to using a trust that make these assets far more useful to their owners. What possible explanation is there for trying to reduce the number of trust and corporation transfers? Isn't the purpose of the NFATCA to advocate for greater freedom with regard to NFA firearms?
Whoever is responsible for these concessions, now used as ammunition by those who seek to further restrict our rights, should publicly apologize, take personal responsibility, and step away from further involvement with the NFATCA. If these steps are not taken, I will not in good conscience be able to remain a member of your organization. No compromises are acceptable on matters of principle.
Sincerely,
XXXXX
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bkoenig:
What a mess. This will kill the NFA industry. No more new NFA in Lincoln/Lancaster Country until we get a pro-gun CLEO.
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