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White House eyes 'gun trust' loophole
CitizenClark:
--- Quote from: bkoenig on August 30, 2013, 11:23:32 AM ---What a mess. This will kill the NFA industry. No more new NFA in Lincoln/Lancaster Country until we get a pro-gun CLEO.
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Well, my understanding is that the proposal will eliminate the CLEO sign-off and replace it with CLEO notification, not simply subject trusts and corps to the CLEO sign-off requirement that currently exists for individuals. However, I have not read this whole 62-page document, so I am shooting from the hip based off of the abstract and previous write-ups on the proposed rule change by other attorneys.
CORRECTION: It appears that NFATCA managed to negotiate us into a position where they didn't get the CLEO sign-off eliminated, but instead extended to trusts and corps. Great.
From the bottom of page 12:
bkoenig:
I haven't read the whole thing, but at the top of page 14 it states that they propose "extending the CLEO certificate requirement to responsible persons of a legal entity". I may be reading that wrong, but that sounds like the same signoff that individuals now need to do, not just notification.
I could live with notification, even though IMO it's none of the CLEO's business what I own. If this really does mean signoff and not notification then I guess it's time to start checking into other CLEO's besides the chief of police and sheriff. I've heard some people saying their state Attorney General will sign. I bet Bruning would be amenable, he seems pretty pro-gun.
CitizenClark:
Response from NFATCA:
--- Quote ---I can appreciate your sentiment. Our petition was constructed by a very well-respected policy and regulatory affairs lawyer. ATF was actually on board with the elimination of CLEO signature. We were told as much by both ATF and DOJ. We never had a dialogue regarding the trust/corp issue, merely acknowledged that a problem might exist. The abrupt change in position came from the Executive Branch.
Jeff Folloder
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David Hineline:
Someone in the Obama, Holder, Todd Jones regime decided to change directions of where this was headed and put a fork into the trusts. Is anyone surprised?
6 of our Republican Senators voted for Jones.
bullit:
Sometimes its best to sit back and remain anonymous.....I seem to recall California gun owners "castrated" themselves attempting to improve their carry laws and voila....no more legal open carry.....
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