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Title: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 25, 2011, 04:38:32 PM
so after i saw this thread on ar15.com http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/354406_IDENT_Engraving_Results.html (http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/354406_IDENT_Engraving_Results.html).

i'm thinking about doing an NFOA engraving for my ar15 lower that includes my trust info.  do you think its a good idea, opinions?  blessing from NFOA board?


ps - and i need a hi res version of the NFOA logo.  where can i get it?

pps - i don't know about the cost, but i will ask them for a quote as soon as i get (or if i get) the board's ok.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: AAllen on October 25, 2011, 05:57:20 PM
I don't think there would be a lot of objection to useing the logo, other than. 

There has been a side discussion about the NFOA getting some lowers made that had the NFOA logo for the manufacturers logo.  These would be a limited production so I don't know what the cost would be, but we were thinking they might be fun as a fundraiser.  Perhaps sell some and hold a couple back that we can have made into complete firearms that we could raffle off our use as auction items.  What do you guys think of that idea?  How much would you be willing to pay for an NFOA lower?
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: Dan W on October 25, 2011, 06:00:23 PM
I have a Hi Rez copy... And I think I can safely say you can use the logo with the boards blessing as long as you are not selling items in competition with the NFOA. Personal use is fine
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: Dan W on October 25, 2011, 06:01:12 PM
I don't think there would be a lot of objection to useing the logo, other than. 

There has been a side discussion about the NFOA getting some lowers made that had the NFOA logo for the manufacturers logo.  These would be a limited production so I don't know what the cost would be, but we were thinking they might be fun as a fundraiser.  Perhaps sell some and hold a couple back that we can have made into complete firearms that we could raffle off our use as auction items.  What do you guys think of that idea?  How much would you be willing to pay for an NFOA lower?
$49  ;D
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: AAllen on October 25, 2011, 06:03:24 PM
$49  ;D
Thats $49 over the normal price for a lower right?
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: FarmerRick on October 25, 2011, 06:07:58 PM
Thats $49 over the normal price for a lower right?

If it's a $49 Palmetto State Armory lower? Sure!

 8)
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 25, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
this would be purely for personal use and to show to friends and spread the word.  i am thinking about replacing the "Nebraska Firearms Owners Association" to my trust name and "NFOA" to location.  but this is only in my beginning phases.  i hope to get some rough copies posted here soon.

as for a limited run of lowers, i think its a great idea.  maybe even personalized, but that would add to the cost.

Dan, could you please email me the hi res copy to my personal email.  i think you have it, if not, PM me.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: altheman2 on October 25, 2011, 07:47:38 PM
I like that idea too...i would be up for a couple lowers....it would help me on my first AR build.  Too many options not enough time  :laugh:
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on October 25, 2011, 09:03:54 PM
Hmm....I don't need another lower, but...
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 25, 2011, 09:15:58 PM
if everything goes right, i hope to have a few rough ideas posted online tomorrow night.  but we'll see how productive my day off is.



ETA:  ill post them in B&W, since the engraving won't be colored, however i may add color after it comes back.


ETA #2: i don't know if the overlapping graphics will look good.  stay tuned.....
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: metaldoc on October 26, 2011, 12:22:14 PM
Last year on another forum, a group buy was featured on lowers with that forum's logo.  They were nicely done and they offered a very good deal at the time.  While those were 80% lowers, I imagine fully finished ones would be available as well.  Or perhaps offer the choice for those that want to finish their own. (no paperwork, no ffl needed)

I'd be interested in one with the NFOA logo.


Tactical Machining was the source.    https://www.tacticalmachining.com/ (https://www.tacticalmachining.com/)
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on October 26, 2011, 12:38:15 PM
I just bought my first lower, but if I can afford it i would probably buy another.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: FarmerRick on October 26, 2011, 12:52:17 PM
I just bought my first lower, but if I can afford it i would probably buy another.

One will lead to another.  Which leads to another... and another... and so on... and so forth.

There is no cure for Black Rifle Disease.  Soon after, you fall under the spell of the "Dark Side".  Next thing you know, you need another safe to store all the AR's and AK's in(and it's harder for the spousal unit to easily count how many you have that way too  ;) ). 
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: NENick on October 26, 2011, 01:20:20 PM
I'd be interested in buying a lower with NFOA on it. I bought a cmmg stripped lower, a2 stock, Stag LPK, and then I ran out of money...
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 26, 2011, 01:56:35 PM
Indent has sent me an email.  they said it would cost $85 to $100 for logos.  i then sent them the hi res logo, so i am waiting back for a better quote.  my computer doesn't have photoshop, it has some consumer grade POS program which is NOT user friendly.  im struggling with a few things.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: FarmerRick on October 26, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
That seems much higher than a few I heard about on ARFCOM a while back.  I'd have to pass at that price.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on October 26, 2011, 09:09:16 PM
One will lead to another.  Which leads to another... and another... and so on... and so forth.

There is no cure for Black Rifle Disease.  Soon after, you fall under the spell of the "Dark Side".  Next thing you know, you need another safe to store all the AR's and AK's in(and it's harder for the spousal unit to easily count how many you have that way too  ;) ).

What spousal unit? 

Besides, my finished rifle is sitting on my tv stand, hooked up to my DVR.  Its in stealth mode, disguised as a 46 inch plasma.

Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 26, 2011, 11:20:36 PM
well here's a days worth of toiling through some consumer grade crappy photoshop ripoff of a program.... ugh....

im going to call it a day for now.  i took out the guns cuz i was thinking it maybe too much over lapping and might look weird after engraved.  then i added the trust info and location.  its not the best.  but i can start from here next time i get time.


opinons?  ideas? 

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rchaisch/firstlasttestnfoalogo.jpg)
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on October 27, 2011, 12:30:05 AM
Robert, you might see if you can add some space between the First/Last/Trust info arc.  Otherwise it looks good, i just fear that it would otherwise look too jumbled/mashed together.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 27, 2011, 10:03:52 AM
i know what you're saying.... trust me, i tried.  the only way you can write on a curve is to make a circle.  so i need to tweak that a little bit.  so far, i haven't received any other emails from Indent, even though i asked them a few questions.  i guess ill keep working on it until i hear back from them.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on October 28, 2011, 11:03:08 AM
ok.  i got a short update for you (if anyone cares)  :)


this is what they emailed me this morning:
You going to lose the detail in the crossed firearms that are in the center of the logo. At best they would just be outlines, they are going to be so small that I don't know that they will be outlines maybe more of a stick figure. The barrel of the shotgun going to be something like .010 wide. A human hair is .0035. The text will be fine, I'm just worried we won't be able to get the level of detail you are looking for out of this logo. We will work with you until you get what you want, so throw some more Ideas at me.


i sent him another logo without the firearms and just text and the state.  we'll see if that one is ok.  i also asked about the price.  instead of having the state be all engraved, i might just have it be outlined.  stay tuned......
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on November 08, 2011, 03:22:00 PM
ok, i got another email from Ident Marking.... the final price for the NFOA and my trust info is $115.  i know its a little high, but i'm gonna do it anyways.  i think it'll be cool and unique.  so i think ill send it to them this week or next.  i will attach a picture to this thread later.  it looks real nice to me, even nicer when its on my SBR.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: NE Bull on November 08, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
Hey Robert, Bring it on over, I have a little Harbor Freight pencil engraver, I'd do it up for ya for less than that!   Upstanding member discount, minus shipping, umm...  $114.75 , $75 and you can rent the engraver and freehand it yourself   :laugh:  ;D :P :laugh: ;D :P :laugh: ;D :P
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on November 08, 2011, 04:59:07 PM
Ident does good work.  They rescued my sbr lower after a local engraver messed it up.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on November 08, 2011, 07:23:17 PM
Bull.... i'll pass, but thanks for the offer.


here's the full sized final picture.  the state will only be outlined.  its a cheaper and ill get it back faster.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rchaisch/logo.jpg)
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on November 09, 2011, 12:38:53 PM
looking bueno.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on November 09, 2011, 09:57:12 PM
That looks cool.

I asked Larry Correia once if he would consider making a run of lowers with the Monster Hunter International logo on the magwell.  He said he wasn't interested in doing it but if anyone wanted to make their own he was cool with it.  I've thought about doing it some day....
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on November 20, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
the lower made it to Texas on Friday.  hopefully ill get it back before Thanksgiving, but I highly doubt it.  i'm excited to see how it turns out.  ill post pics (of course) when i get it back.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on December 26, 2011, 07:34:03 PM
update:  i still don't have my lower.  its been about 6 weeks.  they told me about 2 weeks ago that a main engraving machine went down and they are behind.  at least i don't have my Form 1 back yet.


stay turned......
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on December 28, 2011, 08:47:47 PM
well i spoke too soon.  i got my lower today.  it looks awesome, but i'll prolly won't do it again just cuz of the cost and time and hassle shipping it.  i distorted the name on the lower and the pics don't do it justice.


here are some pics:

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rchaisch/DSCN3756.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g50/rchaisch/DSCN3758.jpg)
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: Dan W on December 28, 2011, 08:56:43 PM
Awesome Robert!  Definitely one of a kind
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on December 29, 2011, 09:04:31 AM
Looks good Robert!  Have you thought about laying some red or white paint in the engraving to make it stand out?
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on December 29, 2011, 09:33:08 AM
That does look sharp.  I agree with Dave, some color fill would really look good.

Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on December 29, 2011, 01:00:50 PM
how would you guys suggest putting color in?

BK - im going to need some help putting the stock on this baby.  she's already to go.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on December 29, 2011, 01:58:26 PM
How does tomorrow sound?  I have all day off.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: RobertH on December 29, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
i might be busy.  ill see how my dad unfolds.  ill call you if i have any time.
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on December 29, 2011, 05:14:42 PM
Sounds good, I'll just be hanging out here tending the smoker. 
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: gsd on December 29, 2011, 06:51:15 PM
I know someone that needs to borrrow a wrench to tighten the castle nut...( this guy) 
Title: Re: NFOA logo engraving.....
Post by: bkoenig on December 29, 2011, 07:05:37 PM
Come on over...PM sent.