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General Categories => General Firearm Discussion => Topic started by: wrenrj1 on July 15, 2009, 08:18:20 PM
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Buying a firearm in Omaha just got a bit more restrictive. In the next few weeks you will be required to leave a finger or thumb print (sorry, I can't recall the news article on which) when purchasing a firearm, which has been required at pawn shops in the metro area.
I suggest you Omahan's send a thank you note to your city council... :o
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Seriously?
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Guess I'm gonna go buy my pistol tomorrow.
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Guess I'm gonna go buy my pistol tomorrow.
Not that I am discouraging you from buying a handgun tomorrow, but, you don't have to buy in Omaha, do you?
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I suppose not, but I live in Omaha so it's just the same, isn't it?
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So this is really for *BUYING* a firearm, not just *SELLING*? Because if so, this has gone too damn far.
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So this is really for *BUYING* a firearm, not just *SELLING*? Because if so, this has gone too damn far.
I guess that's my question. I thought this was just for those "selling" a firearm. Not that that's any better.
I was in the process of writing a letter to the council members when the issue got tabled. Heard Tuesday that it was going to be brought back up, and boom, it's law on Wednesday? WTF did I miss? Don't they have to read an ordinance three times before passage? I know they waive that sometimes, but usually not on something that's got some controversy attached.
Here's what I'm sending the council now:
"Hey, Omaha... in the middle of a budget crunch, when guns sales are at an all time high and you could be raking in tax dollars, you instead chase them out of town. Brilliant. Why don't you do a study of how much tax money you take in from gun sales in your city? Then... subtract all of it from next year's budget. While you're at it, let LaVista and Fremont know how much more tax revenue they can expect to receive.
Legal guns owners are going to stop buying firearms in Omaha. Not because we're criminals... criminals don't care about your laws... but because I'm tired of being treated as a "Criminal-in-Waiting." Oh, and since I won't be stopping at your gun stores, I won't be buying my ammunition and other supplies there either. With the average gun sale around $400-$500 (my educated guess), that's a lot of sales tax going right out of town.
If this is such a good idea, let's apply your logic to drunk driving. Here we go... stay with me: Anyone trading in a used car in Omaha will have to be fingerprinted. This will cut down on the number of drunk driving accidents in Omaha. Wait... what?
If you want gun crime reduced in Omaha, you need to:
1) Encourage legal gun ownership. When there's more of us than there are of them... that's a good thing.
2) Encourage legal concealed carry. An armed society is a polite society.
3) Focus your law enforcement efforts on criminals, not law-abiding citizens. You say you want the public's support. It's hard for us to help you when you keep kicking us in the teeth.
4) Stop pretending that lighting candles and holding "peace marches" are going to solve anything. Like it or not, you are in a war with the criminal elements. The soon you start acting like it and take pro-active, aggressive actions against the criminal element, the sooner you can hope to win.
Although I work in Omaha, I don't live in your City... I live in a small town. Criminals don't come here because they know "those rural people" keep guns around. I know it's a crazy thought... but what if the criminals thought that about Omaha? What might your crime rate be then?
Just some thoughts.
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Good post, man. I'm getting pretty pissed off. I'm gonna try and locate a gun store outside of Omaha. Where's a good one in La Vista?
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TheBulletHole and CaBela's are both in LaVista........
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Link to law that was passed(page 2): http://co.douglas.ne.us/omaha/cityclerk/images/stories/journal/ID%2009_07_14/Law/564.pdf (http://co.douglas.ne.us/omaha/cityclerk/images/stories/journal/ID%2009_07_14/Law/564.pdf)
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Great letter Huskerman-------
Poor Man
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Explain to me in the most gun owner paranoid form, how is this any different than providing any other form of valid identification?
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This bill concerns selling a gun.
It has nothing to do with being paranoid, it is quite simply just another unnecessary piece of legislation.
We are supposed to be trying to get rid of this kind of thing a little at a time, not continue to let this kind of stuff pile up a little at a time.
In reality, this by itself is not a big deal as far as the legitimate gun owner is concerned, but it is the cumulative effect of letting stuff go that seems to be not that big of deal that ends up biting us in the a$$.
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I would like to leave the government a *^# print for no reason.
I am afraid it will never stop until they have everyone's DNA on file.
Associations like this and a few other worthy groups is one hope of getting some of this changed.
This with elections.
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Just so you all know... I just bought my first pistol, went to go register it at Omaha PD downtown and they took my right index finger print... Nice. At least we aren't in Massachusettes where they make you give them a spent casing of the gun so they can match any casings found at crime scenes to your gun!
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I'm just going to continue buying my guns from the Fremont gun show. I end up leaving with something every time I go.
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Yes that has been the norm for Omaha registration.
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Well, poop on Omaha then, I won't be selling any guns there thank you very much. Cabelas, Bullet Hole in Sarpy County will do. As well as Bud's Pawn Shop & Fontenelle Gun Shop in Bellevue.
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The thing is, it only hurts Omaha businesses. I had a long talk with one of the guys at Guns Unlimited and he's freaking pissed.
I contacted the Mayor and I'm gonna be emailing the city council also. I'm still not sure what district I'm in though. ???
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You can download a map of the districts here:
http://www.co.douglas.ne.us/omaha/citycouncil/
WARNING: I just tried to click on the map to zoom in on an area, and it ended up freezing up my computer to the point where I had to unplug it and start over. I think if it were me, I would just call the number in the contact information box at the right hand side of the screen and see if they can tell you what district you are in.
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Yeah, I looked there but I love further out west than that map displays...
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Okay, so I lied... Apparently that one is much "larger" than the first one I looked at. Apparently I'm district #6.
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Well, poop on Omaha then, I won't be selling any guns there thank you very much. Cabelas, Bullet Hole in Sarpy County will do. As well as Bud's Pawn Shop & Fontenelle Gun Shop in Bellevue.
Hate to tell you Fontenell Gun Shop is long gone and all items have been auctioned off.
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I agree with Jay. Totally ineffective. I wish there was some system in place where a traded in gun could be checked if it was stolen or not, but without running every gun through the police, there is no system for FFLs or individuals to do this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Thelma J. (Mayr) [mailto:Thelma.Smith@ci.omaha.ne.us] On Behalf
Of Hotline
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:27 PM
To: Don Short
Subject: Possible Spam: RE: Omaha Mayor's Office: Fingerprinting For
Firearms Sales Ordinance
Dear Don,
Thank you for your recent e-mail regarding the City Council ordinance
regarding gun sales in secondhand shops.
Mayor Suttle supports the ordinance that requires secondhand gun dealers
to fingerprint people who want to sell guns, a practice that is already
required in pawn shops. This ordinance is another tool to protect the
rights of law abiding gun owners and prevent illegal guns from falling
into the hands of criminals. In addition, this ordinance will help in
the prosecution of criminals who will attempt to sell an unlicensed gun.
Because the ordinance helps protect the safety of our community and the
2nd amendment rights of gun owners, Mayor Suttle believes the ordinance
will have a positive impact for the citizens of Omaha and signed the
ordinance into law.
We appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts on this
subject. Please don't hesitate to contact the mayor's office in the
future.
Thank you,
T.J. Smith
Mayor's Office
Hotline Director
City Of Omaha
402-444-5555
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As far as casings being linked to a firearm and left at the scene, every firearm owner should carry a bag of range brass of multiple calibers from many guns to sprinkle as needed.
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As far as casings being linked to a firearm and left at the scene, every firearm owner should carry a bag of range brass of multiple calibers from many guns to sprinkle as needed.
That's true. Or just simply pick up their spent cases before leaving the scene. :P