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Ammunition & Hand Loading => Cartridge and Shotshell reloading => Topic started by: Aldo on February 07, 2009, 12:13:48 PM
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I don't know about anyone else....but I must have just been calling in or stopping by at Sheels in Lincoln at the wrong time....I just couldn't find primers for my .45 reloading for what seems like forever. :(
But they're there TODAY (02-07-09)! :) I called this morning when I finished up at Ike's, and although I prefer Federal over CCI, all they had was CCI in the 1000/pk, so I had them put that aside at customer service for me to pick up later on.
I hear on the radio talkshows as well as on other website threads that supplies have been low or absent since the election. What are other folks finding out about reload supplies for handguns?
P.S. Other than ordering my bullets online (much, much cheaper than Sheels), I haven't ordered any powder or primers online since I didn't want to pay any kind of "hazard" surcharge.
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I noticed that today at Cabelas - the only 9mm bullets they had were 90gr Hornady's.
They had some loaded ammo 9s but not very many.
not sure what to think of it all...
-chris
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I couldn't find any Federal small pistol primers at Gun's Unlimited today, but I did get a decent deal on lead #8 shot. The counter guy there replied that they are having trouble keeping components in stock for reloading handgun calibers.
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It's not just handgun calibers but rifle calibers too. And the prices are going up on what little you find. I'm pretty certain it will be a short term thing though, at least as far as supply, rest assured the price increases will remain.
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Was lucky last Wed. at Scheels in Lincoln bought up 1000 Small & 1000 Large Pistol Primers.
The last they had in these sizes.
They had quite a bit of rifle primers at time I shopped.
The prices at Scheels was the best that I have seen in last couple of years @ 2.99 box of 100 and 26.00 a gross.
Bass Pro is selling 100 at 5.99 and no gross box sales.
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No large pistol primers ANYWHERE across the United States!!!
Called the big name places and the small name places. Just nuthin' around. :P
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Was in Cabela's on Friday and also Guns Unlimited.
They both had a few thousand Large and Small Pistol Primers.
I already have Five Thousand of both and no not for sale.
In addition the ammunition supply seems to be getting better with more of and a greater variety.
Now Rifle primers that is very difficult to locate. One just has to be at the store at the right time.
The Prairie Dog shooters are having a hard time finding primers for there ammunition. Three Lees II can not get any also.
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I have managed to keep a good supply by stopping at Scheels in Lincoln. Every time I go in they have a different supply that they didn't have the week before. Plus it is fun to see what they have.
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Aldo... I will trade you a brick of large pistol primers( Fed 150 ) for a brick of small rifle primers, prefer CCI or Winchester...If you can find any
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Aldo... I will trade you a brick of large pistol primers( Fed 150 ) for a brick of small rifle primers, prefer CCI or Winchester...If you can find any
Thanks for the offer, DanW. I was at Scheel's the other day and was able to purchase 2 1000-packs of the Winshester large pistol primer....that was their only available brand as well as their limit per person at that time. That puts my inventory up above the 5K mark....so okay for now....but I do appreciate the offer!
Good seeing you at RYG last week, by the way!
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As a heads up, some online retailers do accept backorders. E-mail your retailer of choice and ask if they will accept backorders and hold the entire order until all items are in before they ship. Try to find a friend or two or three to help offset the HAZMAT charge.
I'm presently okay on all types of primers I load with. However, my concern is what my stash will look like come October or November. I'm ordering now, with the anticipation of a 3 or 4 month wait.
(On a similar note, I'm *still* waiting on 3 AR-15 LPKs from Brownell's that I ordered in mid-January.)
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I talked to a guy Sunday that has stockpiled 21,000 (Yeah, thousand.)primers and bought a Dillon 550b on a payment plan...... hasn't even got it out of the box yet, and isn't planning to until he needs to....... I wonder how many folks have done the same? I always have a few boxes of primers on hand...... it's bullets I tend to run out of.......
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He may have the market on primers should they become regulated.
Be-it a black market no pun intended.
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I decided to just order some H335 and 5k small rifle primers from Powder Valley in Winfield KS. They will back order, and combine primer and powder on one HAZMAT fee , within limits. We'll see how long it takes to fill the order,as I asked them to hold it until they had it all before shipping
http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/
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I talked to a guy Sunday that has stockpiled 21,000 (Yeah, thousand.)primers and bought a Dillon 550b on a payment plan...... hasn't even got it out of the box yet, and isn't planning to until he needs to....... I wonder how many folks have done the same? I always have a few boxes of primers on hand...... it's bullets I tend to run out of.......
Winchester primers come in boxes of 5000 so that's only 1 box each of small/large/pistol/rifle
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Be-it a black market no pun intended.
ROFL!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I'm presently okay on all types of primers I load with. However, my concern is what my stash will look like come October or November. I'm ordering now, with the anticipation of a 3 or 4 month wait.
Good point, Rich B. Outside of practices, my only even shooting is the Rock Your Glock at Ike's....and I am counting ahead to what my inventory will be like when those events are done. As it is, my source for bullets is currently running a 4-6 week backorder.
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Well, a few friends got together and we placed an order totaling $1,100. 34 pounds of power and several K of primers.
If I wasn't on a list before, I am now.
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I found Magtech Small rifle primers today @ Graf's for a decent price
https://www.grafs.com/product/245662
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I found Magtech Small rifle primers today @ Graf's for a decent price
https://www.grafs.com/product/245662
OOS already.
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I must be pretty unlucky I never even see primers anymore. I am doing alright on pistol primers at the current time but don't have enough to last more than a few more months. Large rifle I got a bunch of before the crunch hit. However I got my AR right before the rush on supplies (picked up the upper Nov. 2, 2008) 2 weeks later the parts were already inflated and I was pretty happy that I got mine ordered when I did. However I am completely out of small rifle and wouldn't mind finding a couple k. If anyone sees them at cabela's or GU I wouldn't mind being notified so that I can call and see if they can hold some for me. Always good to have a few extra sets of eyes that visit the stores at different intervals so that a guy knows when they are in stock.
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rugermax if you are looking for small rifle primers and don't mind CCI brand Scheels in Lincoln has had a good supply the last two weekends while I was there. They also had a good supply of large pistol. As for small pistol they only had a couple boxes.
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Is there anything wrong with the CCI brand of small rifle? I know some people don't like the Winchester small rifle primers due to a soft or thin cup, and it causing a slam fire in AR's. I have not heard anything bad on the CCI's. Anyone?
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CCI is my preferred brand. I am also using Magtech SR primers with good results
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I have read some forums where people state that CCI Primers are a little bit harder
(require more firing pin energy)
+1 for CCI my preferred brand also.
Now Federal is a whole different story.
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As of right now I am up to trying any type of small rifle primer (anything but federal that is) But since these small rifle primers are bound for an AR has anyone actually had this problem personally or is this "forum rumors" and friends of friends of forum members? I prefer the direct yes I had that problem or no never seen it.
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Lee Reloading manual specifically states due not use Federal Primers in a progressive multiple capacity primer tray because of the fact that if one primer gets misaligned and it detonates while trying to be feed into the shell primer pocket the entire primer tray will most likely go off.
That is specific enough for me and I will not be the guinea pig.
Wolf Primers have become quite popular in today's world of buy what you can find market.
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Well the primer tray thing isn't my problem, Just haven't had much good luck with anything federal. Used a few in shotguns, and a few in a pistol, didn't really like what I saw.
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I load Federal primers in all pistol ammo that I want to make sure goes BANG, but they are too soft for a rifle IMHO.
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Wow gotta love the differences in opinions and brand loyalty. Dan, if I want to make sure it goes bang I will ONLY put a Winchester into it. Don't take that the wrong way tho. Its just funny how it seems that Chevy guys will stick with Chevy's and Ford guys will stick with Fords. NO matter how many times they are on the side of the road or how much time they spend in the shop. Not saying that I have had a problem with Winchester because I have not. But Once again Federal and I seem to have a history of not getting along. The ONLY shotshell I have had that didn't go off had a federal primer in it. Luckily it didn't happen on skeet nite. and it just seemed like they were burning different in the pistol than winchesters. Almost like the reloads weren't shooting as fast as my other reloads using about the same amount of powder and win primers. Both loads were supposed to crank out about the same speed and power. Just seemed to be a noticeable difference in the reaction and feel of the shots. Maybe its all in my head but i can't convince it of that, at least not until I have a chrony to prove it with.
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It is common knowledge that many firearms have a problem igniting Winchester primers. I have personally had 20-30 failures in shotshells of the Winchester 209.
I quit them all together at that point.
I have fired over 30,000 Cheddite primers without a failure in 12 gauge since.
I have fired over 20,000 Federal small and large pistol primers without a single failure in Glock pistols.
I you have an issue with Federal shotshells, it would be the opposite of your description, as the Federal 209A primer is generally recognized as the hottest 209 sized primer made.
All of my Winchester 209 failures were back a while, but as you may know, in competition shotgunning, one miss and you are done.
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Gotta shoot alot of targets to overcome a miss. Esp. in competition. Never have I had a problem with Win 209 primers. Had one fed not go boom and dropped them to prevent future problems. Never shot a Cheddite. Haven't shot nearly as many reloads as you, just going off the limited experience that I have.
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I have shot over 15,000 winchester 209's in 12 ga. and have not had any misfires or lack of fire. I just bought a case of the chedite primers to try. Hopefully they work as well or better. Lack of Boom is not good.
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I had used a lot of Win 209's too, and I was mighty disappointed when I had troubles. The Cheddites have been very good for me. Fortunately, I use Hodgdon International Clays for trap loads, and years ago they had some data for the Cheddites published.
I got a few loads that have been very good for me in 1oz , 1 1/8th oz, both light for 16's and heavy for handicap yardage.