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Title: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: ProtoPatriot on July 01, 2013, 12:18:52 AM
Thigh rig (drop leg) holster vs cross draw (vest rig) holster?

Which one and why?

I'm partial towards the drop leg, but wondering what the vest rig would have over it.

Not just emergency situations but also things like camping and hiking.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: CitizenClark on July 01, 2013, 08:21:05 AM
Thigh rig (drop leg) holster vs cross draw (vest rig) holster?

Which one and why?

I'm partial towards the drop leg, but wondering what the vest rig would have over it.

Not just emergency situations but also things like camping and hiking.

Drop leg increases your width going through tight spaces. It is more likely to randomly bang against things. Unless you are low-crawling a lot or something, a drop-leg is more likely to get your pistol into the muck. For me, it feels less secure for running, too.

One downside of the chest rig is that you aren't starting with your pistol pointed in a default safe direction.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: gsd on July 01, 2013, 08:26:51 AM
When I ran a drop leg, width wasn't necessarily increased, primarily due to the fact that my shoulders are wide anyway.

From a strictly camping/hiking aspect, I would recommend a drop leg. With a crossdraw vest you are limiting your carrying ability regarding packs, not to mention adding yet another layer, unless you outfit the vest with other pouches to carry the majority of your miscellaneous camping gear.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: sjwsti on July 01, 2013, 08:32:50 AM
I started out using a drop leg and everything CC states is true. It made getting in and out of vehicles difficult. Moving through rooms and tight spaces, it was catching on everything. The position of the holster is constantly moving with your leg so drawing while moving or kneeling is challenging.

Moving the holster to the front of my vest solved all of these issues. Its faster to get to, easier to defend and out of the way.

- Shawn
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: bkoenig on July 01, 2013, 09:53:20 AM
My .02 - I carry on a daily basis with a holster at belt level.  I think it's a good idea to keep my concealed carry setup the same as anything else I use, to keep the motions as simar as possible.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: ProtoPatriot on July 01, 2013, 09:13:22 PM
I'm trying to debate whether I should get a chest holster or a more comfortable thigh rig (just got a basic one at the moment).

The benefits and issues I am currently seeing are:

Vest rig issues:
Extra layer while camping/hiking/other non-tactical activities.
Takes up space on the vest where you could put another pouch or other useful things.
Extra weight on the chest (which is already carrying enough weight with everything else on the vest)
Slower draw if you are not carrying a rifle
Less comfortable while relaxing
Not maintaining barrel in safe direction while carrying or drawing.

Vest rig benefits:
Keeps sidearm more defensible
Faster draw should you be carrying a rifle
Easier draw while in a vehicle

Thigh rig issues:
Possible snags as it is less noticeable to avoid things (though, from my experience this has been minimal)
Slower draw when carrying a rifle
Wiggles/moves slightly (though the dual strap version seems to have corrected a lot of this)
More difficult to defend (though this would depend on situational awareness)

Thigh rig benefits:
Moves the weight to a location less noticeable and less burdened
Faster and easier to draw when only carrying a sidearm as hand is already next to it
Less layers on chest
More comfortable while relaxing
Barrel in safe direction while carrying and drawing
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: gsd on July 01, 2013, 10:44:58 PM
If you are in lincoln, you are more than welcome to test-fit my blackhawk drop leg. With two leg straps and two upper straps it does not move much at all, even at a full run.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: pfinn on July 02, 2013, 07:43:20 AM
From a strictly camping/hiking aspect, I would recommend a drop leg. With a crossdraw vest you are limiting your carrying ability regarding packs, not to mention adding yet another layer, unless you outfit the vest with other pouches to carry the majority of your miscellaneous camping gear.

Agree.

I've spent a good amount of time in the mountains, and accessibility and comfort are really hindered with a vest as it relates to packs and jackets. I always have a frame pack with me, and the straps interfere with access to the vest. Layers also need to come on and off (rain jacket), and I generally don't like messing with the rig that much.

I've used a thigh rig in this setting, and it has worked well, but it needs to be a good one so it fits both you and the firearm properly. Good fit can alleviate a lot of the wiggles/movement you mentioned. I'd actually rather carry the weight on my chest instead of on my leg, but it my experience the weight hasn't been an issue.

I've also rigged a standard OWB holster on the hip straps of my pack, and that works great, assuming you keep your pack on the entire time. Take it off to rest, and you've just lost access to your firearm.

Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: NENick on July 02, 2013, 08:18:31 AM
Does a chest mounted pistol really get in the way when in the prone position? I do like the idea that a chest mounted pistol probably will stop a bullet.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: gsd on July 02, 2013, 09:19:33 AM
Does a chest mounted pistol really get in the way when in the prone position? I do like the idea that a chest mounted pistol probably will stop a bullet.

Nick, A pistol on a vest, at least the one's i have seen/used, places the holster more towards the belly. Even a novice shooter is going to aim center mass, a solid 6-8 inches above where the firearm would be located.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: NENick on July 02, 2013, 12:12:35 PM
That's definitely true. At least it still is placing a hunk of metal over a portion over the front side of your body. It still seems like it would mess up laying prone. Also, you've be applying pressure to the pistol/holster while a potential buddy is laying next to you.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: ProtoPatriot on July 02, 2013, 10:54:34 PM
If you are in lincoln, you are more than welcome to test-fit my blackhawk drop leg. With two leg straps and two upper straps it does not move much at all, even at a full run.


I live in Papillion...don't make it too Lincoln very often...thanks for the offer, if I have to come out there for hunters safety, maybe I will take you up on that since I know I would have to order that one.
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: shovelhead69 on July 05, 2013, 08:52:08 AM
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Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: ProtoPatriot on July 06, 2013, 09:07:52 PM
I am looking at either getting the vest holster and/or upgrading to this

http://www.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-level-3-tactical-serpa-holster-4306.html (http://www.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-level-3-tactical-serpa-holster-4306.html)

I currently have this Rothco drop leg in multicam - it's ok, but not fantastic.
http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-deluxe-adjustable-drop-holster-coyote/dp/B00A7G75FA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373162452&sr=8-4&keywords=rothco+drop+leg (http://www.amazon.com/Rothco-deluxe-adjustable-drop-holster-coyote/dp/B00A7G75FA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1373162452&sr=8-4&keywords=rothco+drop+leg)

With that Blackhawk setup, I can at least kind of do both vest and drop leg if I also get:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-serpa-quick-disconnect-kit-430950bk.html (http://www.opticsplanet.com/blackhawk-serpa-quick-disconnect-kit-430950bk.html)
Title: Re: Holsters: thigh rig vs vest cross draw
Post by: gsd on July 06, 2013, 09:48:28 PM
I have that BlackHawk in coyote. You will like it if you get it.