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Handguns, Rifles & Shotguns => Rifles => Topic started by: Hank on March 30, 2013, 01:09:27 PM

Title: The CHALLENGE
Post by: Hank on March 30, 2013, 01:09:27 PM
LOL..this was a challenge done on a couple of other forums. With all the people saying that their rifle (semi-auto only) would shoot .500" ALL DAY LONG, a guy come up with this `challenge`; shoot 30 rnds. 5 rnds. at 6 targets on the same paper, 100 yards..hehe, I didn`t do too bad and feel like I should be able to do better. DPMS Bull Twenty, JP trigger, Burris 4.5-14 x 42 in PEPR mount.
Not so easy as many would think.
(http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz331/sullipics/017_zpsfd28703b.jpg)
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: altheman2 on March 30, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
mmmm... that sounds like fun i might have to take the DPMS out...and my M1 and see what i can do
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: Hank on March 30, 2013, 05:09:19 PM
Thats all it was about..FUN, I never been one to brag, but this rifle has shot some amazing groups.
Look at targets 2&5, take away them darn flyers and put them in with the rest..oh well.
In honesty, I have tried a couple of times to better my first try and didn`t do as good. Crazy, I had not had this rifle out of the safe for 6 months prior and shot the best groups..go figure.
These loads (pictured) are 60g Sierra HP with Benchmark and Rem. 7&1/2 primers. Accurate 2230 has produced amazing groups too. Best groups ever with this rifle though were 50g V-Max and Accurate 2460, but I have tried numerous times and not been able to make them work again. Different batch of powder might be the cause, so I have 20 or so rounds loaded up with Benchmark(&V-Max) to try out when the day is right.
Go for it man give it a try! There were some other rules but that don`t matter..hmm; no rifle rest, use bi-pod or sand bags, no cleaning between groups, a time limit..I dont recall what it was but this took me about 1/2 hour for a little cool down between groups.
have fun!
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: altheman2 on March 31, 2013, 02:42:09 PM
There is Mine! 60g V-Max,Varget and CCI Mil-Spec primers. Not bad not great...used sand bags...I bought a wally world cheapo rifle rest and after messing around with the Mosin in it there is not much left of it :laugh: Time was a little longer than yours...i started at 8 and dang there was a chill in the air...gave up after the 4th group and got some breakfast came back and finished.  I will have to try this agian with AR-Comp, I use it in the mini 14 and it made a huge difference.


Oh it's a DPMS lower, RRA lower parts kit and a DPMS Oracle Upper. I built it for the wife and got me another lower but with the current prices of AR parts and accessories i will wait to finish my build later. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: Dan W on March 31, 2013, 06:22:44 PM
I have always thought that 5 shot groups are deceptive measures of an ammo's capability. Try 10 shot or 20 shot groups and then the groups become  much more indicative of actual performance(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/LJUnaTIC/Hornady55SP245H335.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/LJUnaTIC/Hornady68match238TAC.jpg)

Hornady 68gr Match group was shot from prone position with a bipod

The 55gr SPP load is my plinking round fired from the bench with a bipod

Obviously I am not the best rifle shot from either position
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: Hank on March 31, 2013, 06:39:58 PM
Thats cool you guys. I have a Oracle model also (a kit rifle I put together) and I don`t know if it will do that good. I did recently load 500 rounds of 40 Nosler BT for it, so I`ll give it a 20 rnd group  like Dan suggest.
I have a 20" RRA Bull Barrel, gas block, gas tube and FF guard for another build but who knows when the remaining parts will be avaliable. I planned on 68g match bullets for that upper being 1/8 twist.
Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: bkoenig on March 31, 2013, 08:18:55 PM
Well, I don't have any rifles capable of shooting .5 MOA consistently so I won't enter the challenge.

Best I have is my Remington 700 in .308 Win.  I haven't really done any load development, but it's at least a sub-MOA rifle.  The only group I have a picture of is the first one after breaking in the barrel.  I did get it down to .75", but I'm hoping with some heavier bulets and match primers it can do better.

(http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee412/alemonkey/TgtGfx_zps99d3cfeb.jpg)

My 3 gun upper will shoot pretty much right at 1 MOA consistently.  I'm guessing my Rock River National Match upper would do better, but it's an A2 upper so it doesn't really lend itself to optics mounting.  I can hold about 2 MOA from prone with it when I'm slung up good and tight.

Title: Re: The CHALLENGE
Post by: Hank on March 31, 2013, 09:45:54 PM
That definately looks promising bkoenig. I have a new Mod. 70 (300 Win.) that I have not fooled with much, other than shoot/clean a few times. I have some heavier bullets for it too..heavier than the ones I was using. Have some 180g Hornady to try.