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Title: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: FarmerRick on April 19, 2011, 07:48:42 AM
http://www.ketv.com/news/27594689/detail.html (http://www.ketv.com/news/27594689/detail.html)

OMAHA, Neb. -- Omaha police said a property owner shot an apparent copper thief early Tuesday morning.

Investigators said when the property owner encountered the would-be thief, a fight broke out and the suspect was shot in the leg.

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Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Rodney Moorhead on April 19, 2011, 11:25:42 AM
Too bad the shot was a about a foot low.
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Rodney Moorhead on April 19, 2011, 02:01:00 PM
Holy cow! I went to HS with the shootee.  He was 22 and still a junior at the time as I recall. 

His nickname was fireball as he caught his hair on fire in the parking lot whilst trying to start his car. 

He was a moron/looser then.  I see things have not changed. 
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Chris Z on April 19, 2011, 06:10:26 PM
Channel 7 News interviewed the shooter/homeowner. Seems like a decent guy who articulated the need for self defense.

Guess what? The !@#$%^&* Omaha Police Dept took his gun and wrote him a ticket for having an Unregistered handgun.


Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: FarmerRick on April 19, 2011, 06:15:19 PM
Update on the KETV website: 

OMAHA, Neb. -- A landlord is under investigation for shooting an alleged copper thief in the act.
The shooting happened around 2:30 a.m. Tuesday at one of Wesley Hall’s properties near 32nd Street and Poppleton Avenue.
Investigators said, when Hall encountered the man, a fight broke out, and the 41-year-old was shot in the leg.

Officers gave Hall a ticket because his gun is not registered in Nebraska -- just in California.


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Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Rodney Moorhead on April 19, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
He is also a retired LEO according to KMTV.  I thought they had national CCW?
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: FarmerRick on April 19, 2011, 06:32:28 PM
He is also a retired LEO according to KMTV.  I thought they had national CCW?

He is ex-USMC and teaches Taekwondo at Kickingtigers near 96th & L St., can't find anything about being ex - LEO.

Correction...
Yeah, here it is on KMTV's website: http://www.kmtv.com/story/14477628/homeowner-catches-copper-thief-in-the-act-and-shoots (http://www.kmtv.com/story/14477628/homeowner-catches-copper-thief-in-the-act-and-shoots)

"Hall says he was just doing what he's been trained to do.  He's a taekwando instructor, a former Marine, and a former police officer."
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: nightraider717 on April 20, 2011, 05:41:30 AM
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Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: FarmerRick on April 20, 2011, 06:23:26 AM
Yeah, I had Master Hall teach me in Taekwondo for about 3 years, known him for more than 10.  Great guy.  My only problem was that he taught a philosophy to injure, so that they run away, not to injure till they are able to stop.  But, that's just my opinion.

It sounds like he may have used that same philosophy with his shot placement in this instance too.
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: bullit on April 20, 2011, 06:50:54 AM
"Guess what? The !@#$%^&* Omaha Police Dept took his gun and wrote him a ticket for having an Unregistered handgun."

Yep Chris...the reporterette made sure to emphasize at the end of her report the gun was not registered with OPD.
Former LEO does not equate to retired LEO with regards to LEOSA rights to carry...and Farmer Rick....there are no "Ex" Marines (unless they got the "Big Cookie" Discharge)...they are Former Marines.  Semper Fi !!!


Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: bullit on April 20, 2011, 06:54:39 AM
One last comment....it will be interesting to see what if any charges are levied.  It could be a pretty tough argument to say "I was in fear for my life", and then simply wound the perpetrator.  Also, being a martial artist could make a wiley prosecutor spin that into "why didn't you use your skils to defend your self instead shooting this 'poor lost soul' down on his luck.  Will be interesting to watch.....
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Chris Z on April 20, 2011, 07:08:08 AM
Honestly I think this guy really shot himself in the foot. He was doing interviews on the news and doing so without Legal Counsel present.

Definitely not a good idea if you are in a self defense shooting.... I don't care how justified it is, don't talk to reporters, and definitely don't talk to the police without your Legal Counsel present
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: bkoenig on April 20, 2011, 08:13:18 AM
You would think as a former cop he would have known better. 
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: Wesley D on April 20, 2011, 07:34:14 PM
Update on the KETV website: 

OMAHA, Neb. -- A landlord is under investigation for shooting an alleged copper thief in the act.

Psssst. KETV, your bias is showing. Interesting how they took the extra effort to note the theft as alleged but not the shooting...
Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: nightraider717 on April 21, 2011, 02:47:03 PM
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Title: Re: Police: Homeowner Shot Copper Thief - Omaha
Post by: skydve76 on June 03, 2011, 09:02:26 AM
Any updates on this?  I havent found any, I would of assumed they would of made a decision so far on what if anything is going to happen.