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General Categories => Newsworthy => Topic started by: FarmerRick on December 09, 2011, 06:06:30 PM
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http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Another_Gun_Amnesty_Scheduled_135345103.html (http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Another_Gun_Amnesty_Scheduled_135345103.html)
Another Gun Amnesty Scheduled
10 a.m.-2 p.m. December 17th at Omaha Music Hall
Omaha police are teaming up with several community groups in an effort to take more guns off the street. Project Safe Neighborhood, Family First and OPD are sponsoring a gun amnesty next Saturday.
Anyone may bring unwanted guns and ammunition to a drop-off location, no questions asked. The Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall at 18th and Capitol is where you’ll be able to bring unwanted or illegal guns between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. on December 17th. Police want the weapons before someone uses them to commit a crime.
The last gun amnesty in Omaha was in July when nearly 40 guns were turned in along with several large buckets of ammo. The guns are always checked to see if they're connected to any crimes, then they're destroyed.
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Too bad they aren't paying for them. I have a broken Remington 770 that I wouldn't mind getting rid of for some cash. ;D I doubt people with a criminal gun would ever consider something like this, or even read the news to know about them. Well if getting a few junky guns out of Omaha makes the anti-gunners sleep better at night then I can handle that instead of stricter gun laws.
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http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Another_Gun_Amnesty_Scheduled_135345103.html (http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Another_Gun_Amnesty_Scheduled_135345103.html)
Another Gun Amnesty Scheduled
10 a.m.-2 p.m. December 17th at Omaha Music Hall
Omaha police are teaming up with several community groups in an effort to take more guns off the street. Project Safe Neighborhood, Family First and OPD are sponsoring a gun amnesty next Saturday.
Anyone may bring unwanted guns and ammunition to a drop-off location, no questions asked. The Omaha Civic Auditorium Music Hall at 18th and Capitol is where you’ll be able to bring unwanted or illegal guns between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. on December 17th. Police want the weapons before someone uses them to commit a crime.
That's the part that gets to me. That little drop-off phrase that they throw in that shows us that they think guns are merely there for the commission of crimes, that given long enough, every single gun out there will be eventually used in a crime, because that is all that can possibly happen.
Grrr................. :angry:
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This is nothing but a feel good publicity stunt. The gangbangers won't turn anything in. All they'll get is little old grandma's who don't know what to do with their deceased husband's old shotgun or .22 revolver that's been sitting in the closet for the last 40 years.
I did see a picture (I think it was on Arfcom) the other day of a gun buyback where someone turned in a trapdoor Springfield. I about threw up thinking of that old warhorse getting melted down. >:D
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I doubt the good ones get melted down. They probably make it into some officers' or deputies' personal collections.
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This is the city of Omaha's way of padding and increasing their "Number of guns taken off the streets of Omaha" statistic.
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If they are not being paid, does that make them a charitable contribution? At least someone should show up and pay for ammo, that way it won't get lost in the honorable police department's hands. Buying the guns could possibly lead to legal problems but the ammo is there for the taking.
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I'd be willing to bet that the buckets of ammo are all destroyed... one by one at the firing range. Probably in the same way that confiscated fireworks are.
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I doubt the good ones get melted down. They probably make it into some officers' or deputies' personal collections.
Some of that is true. A OPD friend of mine was legally given a .357 out of the evidence room when he received an award an few years back. It’s pretty nice. Don't know how many firearms are given out though...
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This is nothing but a feel good publicity stunt. The gangbangers won't turn anything in. All they'll get is little old grandma's who don't know what to do with their deceased husband's old shotgun or .22 revolver that's been sitting in the closet for the last 40 years.
If past events are any indication, this event will allow folks to get rid of unregistered NFA weapons and other "hot" firearms that they don't want to be caught with.
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I wonder how pissed off the OPD would be if you showed up with a wad of cash and offered people $25 bucks per gun. ;)
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I wonder how pissed off the OPD would be if you showed up with a wad of cash and offered people $25 bucks per gun. ;)
I emailed them the last time they had one of these amnesty events to ask this very question (whether I would be arrested if I did such a thing). The email I got back did not really answer my question, and just said that OPD would not be supportive.
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Oh, I thought this was the day you told your wife about all the guns you had recently bought that she did not know about...
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Was there ever a report on what was turned in? Were they all stolen guns that would be returned to the proper owners? Did any of them work? Were they grandmas gun that the grandkid found while snooping in the medicine cabinet?
I want to know darnit!
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I can't find the article right now but it sounds like they were mostly old rifles and shotguns with a few handguns some of which were rusted so bad they were inoperable, about 50 guns over all. They did get several buckets (5 or 7, 5 gal.) of ammo as well.
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At least they saved the city from all that crime.
I could use some ammo though, maybe there should be a private ammo buy back by someone other than the police.
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Here's the article from WOWT dated Dec. 17th. The last sentence in this article will make you cry.
Fifty-five weapons, including 49 guns, were taken off the streets Saturday. Police say the third gun amnesty day of the year, held at the Omaha Civic Auditorium, yielded the best results.
"I think the community is stepping up to help us and I think we've gotten the message out that it is important to get these guns out of possibly, out of the wrong hands," said Omaha Police Lt. Shayna Ray.
Police believe every gun taken off the street through these amnesty programs is one less gun to worry about. Like the previous amnesty days, this was an anonymous, no questions asked situation.
Among the 49 firearms collected was a shotgun the owner was glad to get rid of. Spencer Schreiber had owned the shotgun half of his life and he said from the beginning it has been nothing but trouble. Saturday's gun amnesty day was the perfect way to get rid of a dangerous weapon.
“When I was about 12 years old I was hunting with my dad, closed it and luckily he was standing next to me and not in front of me, otherwise that could have been a bad situation. It never made me nervous, but i know that it made my mother nervous having it, just in case there was some kid who came over and decided, oh wow it's a gun and did something stupid."
The reasons behind the other 48 firearms handed over to police were probably as varied as the guns themselves. There were several sawed off shotguns, a number of long guns and several handguns. The one thing they have in common is that if put in the wrong hands, lives would be in danger.
Any gun has the potential to fall into the wrong hands. They are one of the first items burglars usually look for or maybe a guest finds your hidden firearm.
"People who are in your house and maybe you are not keeping track of the guns and people are taking guns through simple thefts," said Lt. Ray. "A lot of people don't even realize their guns are stolen."
In recent weeks, it seems as if Omaha's streets have become more dangerous and gun violence is a part of the equation, but with amnesty days police hope to lessen the potential. "Getting those weapons off the street, just one weapon off the street, we possibly could have saved lives," added Lt. Ray.
Police also collected 400 pounds of ammunition. The guns will be checked against stolen gun reports and officers will try to return the guns to their rightful owners. The rest of the guns will be melted down.
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I still want to know how many were stolen, and of those, I want to know how hard the OPD worked to get them back to the rightful owner.
At least they did say that it was the hands and not the guns that are the criminals. If they tried harder to get the criminals off the streets, the guns wouldn't be an issue. It's another case of the cops wanting the public to voluntarily doing their work for them.
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Based on how hard OPD illegally tries to keep guns from their rightful owners, I can guarantee they make NO ATTEMPT to return any of these guns
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Any gun has the potential to fall into the wrong hands. They are one of the first items burglars usually look for or maybe a guest finds your hidden firearm.
"People who are in your house and maybe you are not keeping track of the guns and people are taking guns through simple thefts," said Lt. Ray. "A lot of people don't even realize their guns are stolen."
......just more proof that OPD views ANY gun, legal or illegal, as a bad thing and that its better the citizens be disarmed to prevent mayhem. They obviously don't trust the citizens of Omaha and think they know better what the needs of the people are. Shame shame shame..........this type of thinking is not only insulting but dangerous to public safety. Concentrate on the criminals and not on the guns!
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......just more proof that OPD views ANY gun, legal or illegal, as a bad thing and that its better the citizens be disarmed to prevent mayhem. They obviously don't trust the citizens of Omaha and think they know better what the needs of the people are. Shame shame shame..........this type of thinking is not only insulting but dangerous to public safety. Concentrate on the criminals and not on the guns!
That statement makes it proof? That's a stretch isn't it? But then again, the OPD is viewed as the enemy of all CHPs by many on this board, so it shouldnt come as a surprise. Every statements made by the OPD are nitpicked and analyzed, with most conclusions being negative. We're talking about firearms getting into the hands of the thugs and the bangers here. Where do most of their weapons come from anyway? Its not like these lowlifes can purchase them from Sol's, Cabelas, Guns Unlimited, etc, because they wouldn't qualify for a purchase permit. They steal them from relatives or get them from burlaries. But don't let me take you away from bashing OPD, because they're the real bad guys here. ::)
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LM4202- I only speak the truth about how OPD treats ALL gun owners, it is not simply bashing them because we are a bunch of cop haters.
I should say that OPD has many great firearms owners who are supportive of LEGALLY owned guns. The problem is, those Officers are not the ones who represent the leadership of OPD and the city of Omaha.
I wish I could name some specific examples of OPD doing right to gun owners, but I can't. I can easily name for you specific cases where OPD wrongfully worked hard to keep LEGALLY owned guns out of the hands of their owners.
1) The current Federal lawsuit filed by SAF and NFOA...... OPD denies a registration of a handgun by a individual who by state and federal law can legally own that handgun. He even has a state Handgun purchase permit.
2) James McCullough's handgun from the Walgreen's robbery last year... Almost a year after the incident, and 30 days past the sentencing of the surviving criminal.... By law the gun was no longer needed for evidence, and must be released to the rightful owner. OPD and the city law dept refused to return the handgun. The Attorney Generals office was contacted, and within 20 minutes of the AG calling the OPD Chief, amazingly OPD released the gun to him.
3) Several guns were taken "as evidence" by OPD from a mans Sarpy county home after his ex-wife's son stole one of his rifles and used it in the Westroads mall shooting. OPD then refused to return any of his firearms that were taken from his safe, out of his home in Sarpy county, by OPD. He gets a court order for his guns to be returned, and OPD still refused to comply. Finally after well over a year and many Attorney's bills, he gets his LEGALLY owned firearms returned to him.
The Mayors office and leadership of OPD have tarnished the reputation of OPD as a good organization in my eyes, and until there are major changes there, I won't see it differently.
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LM4202- I wish to re interate one of Chris's points, there are allot of good OPD officers that support legal firearms owners. But there are problems with management that puts the whole of the organization into walking on the wrong side of issues, and unfortunately there are many officers that have no information on firearms other than what they get spoonfed by OPD management.
Then I will point out that the purpose of this thread is not to "Bash OPD" but to discuss the gun turn in, these type of events are proven to do nothing to reduce violence but rather have the opposite effect. They take what could be inexpensive legal firearms out of the community where they could be used for self defense by those that can not afford the higher prices of new firearms.
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I have no love for the City of Omaha's restrictive gun policies. I doubt OPD itself is entirely responsible for many of the complaints voiced here. Also, OPD is not taking guns from anyone. This is a totally voluntary act by people who simply want to get a gun out of their possession, for whatever reason. I also doubt that there is proof, that these amnesties affect crime one way or the other (meaning that no one can honestly say that without the amnesty programs, crime would go down, nor the opposite).
As for showing up to purchase these guns before they are turned in, it has been done in other places, and the police did nothing to interfere with the sales (at least not at the places I know of). It would be interesting to see if it could be done in Omaha, given their registration policies. Buying from a dealer, I imagine registration is pretty much automatic. Buying from an individual might be another story. They may try to confiscate the firearm immediately because it was not registered yet.
Surely someone here knows how this registration thing works in Omaha. If you were to purchase a gun from another individual, how would you go about registering it without being subject to breaking the law between the time of purchase and showing up to have it registered?