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Title: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: Chris C on December 24, 2012, 08:50:34 AM
http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?nclick_check=1 (http://www.lohud.com/interactive/article/20121223/NEWS01/121221011/Map-Where-gun-permits-your-neighborhood-?nclick_check=1)

Came across this on another forum I frequent.  As I understand it this is not the first time this has been done either. 
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: lunchbox on December 24, 2012, 08:55:30 AM
Thats F’d up. I know there was a list of names published of all NY gun owners. Might as well put a sign up for thieves and say “come rob me"
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: depserv on December 24, 2012, 09:37:34 AM
Maybe some patriot group should post the names and addresses of prominent anti-gun bigots, especially the ones in the liberal press who publish the names of permit holders. 
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: GreyGeek on December 24, 2012, 12:27:55 PM
Maybe some patriot group should post the names and addresses of prominent anti-gun bigots, especially the ones in the liberal press who publish the names of permit holders. 

I have little doubt that "The Journal" did this deliberately in the hope that thugs would target CHP holders by stealth in order to  take the guns, so that "The  Journal" could add stories of "guns failing to protect gun owners" to their anti-2A agenda.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: depserv on December 24, 2012, 12:56:15 PM
A pro-freedom group like NRA should find names of prominent anti-gun bigots who have carry permits and publish those names (and addresses, etc.).  They should also publish information about anti-gun bigots who have armed bodyguards.  Names and addresses of media propagandists who levy political war against the Republic should also be published.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: HuskerXDM on December 24, 2012, 12:57:55 PM
That is ridiculous.   >:D

On a side note, I saw a prominent city official  in the gun department of Scheels today.  My first thought was, "Isn't he a member of (prominent city officials) Against Illegal Guns?"  Then he asked for a pellet gun.  So my second thought was, "Better not discharge that in city limits"  LOL
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: GreyGeek on December 24, 2012, 01:14:29 PM
That is ridiculous.   >:D

On a side note, I saw a prominent city official  in the gun department of Scheels today.  My first thought was, "Isn't he a member of (prominent city officials) Against Illegal Guns?"  Then he asked for a pellet gun.  So my second thought was, "Better not discharge that in city limits"  LOL

As the law is written, shooting a pea out of a paper straw is considered a "firearm" and  is illegal.  So is using a rubber band to propel a paper spit wad or a paper clip.   
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: D1sclaimer on December 24, 2012, 03:48:03 PM
As the law is written, shooting a pea out of a paper straw is considered a "firearm" and  is illegal.  So is using a rubber band to propel a paper spit wad or a paper clip.   

Lincoln law or federal?

Federal law says it has to use an "explosive"(typically powder) to be a firearm.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html#air-gun-regulation (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html#air-gun-regulation)

I just want to make sure we're all on the same page for what a firearm is.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: HuskerXDM on December 24, 2012, 05:08:14 PM
Lincoln law or federal?

Federal law says it has to use an "explosive"(typically powder) to be a firearm.

http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html#air-gun-regulation (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/firearms-technology.html#air-gun-regulation)

I just want to make sure we're all on the same page for what a firearm is.

City ordinance
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: DaveB on December 24, 2012, 05:15:59 PM
Post the names and addresses of every office holder at that paper along with their phone number. That way they won't be able to hide either.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: DaveB on December 24, 2012, 05:31:44 PM
Board of directors, will get addresses for them when I get time. Will be easier if they own property.

Marjorie Magner
Chairman, Gannett Co., Inc. Managing partner, Brysam Global Partners, a private equity firm investing in financial services with a focus on consumer opportunities.
Board committees: Audit; Executive; Executive Compensation.
Other directorships: Accenture, Ally Financial, Inc.
Age 62.

Gracia C. Martore
Gracia C. Martore
President and CEO. Formerly president and chief operating officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2010-2011); Executive vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2006-2010); Senior vice president and chief financial officer, Gannett Co., Inc. (2003-2006).
Board committees: Executive; Transformation.
Other directorships: FM Global; MeadWestvaco Corporation.
Age 60.

John E. Cody
John E. Cody
Former executive vice president and chief operating officer of Broadcast Music, Inc.
Board committees: Audit; Executive.
Other directorships: Tennessee Performing Arts Center.
Age 65.

Howard D. Elias
Howard D. Elias
President and chief operating officer, EMC Information Infrastructure and Cloud Services, Executive Office of the Chairman.
Board committees: Executive Compensation; Transformation.
Age 54.

Arthur H. Harper
Arthur H. Harper
Managing partner, GenNx360 Capital Partners, a private equity firm focused on business-to-business companies.
Board committees: Executive Compensation; Nominating and Public Responsibility.
Other directorships: Monsanto Company.
Age 56.

John Jeffry Louis
John Jeffry Louis
Co-founder and former chairman, Parson Capital Corporation.
Board committees: Audit; Transformation.
Other directorships and trusteeships: S. C. Johnson & Son, Inc.; Johnson Financial Group; Northwestern University; Chicago Council on Global Affairs; and a commissioner of the U.S./U.K. Fulbright Commission.
Age 49.

Scott K. McCune
Scott K. McCune
Vice president and director, Integrated Marketing, The Coca-Cola Company.
Board committees: Nominating and Public Responsibility; Transformation.
Age 55.

Duncan M. McFarland
Duncan M. McFarland
Retired chairman and chief executive officer, Wellington Management Company, LLP.
Board committees: Audit; Executive; Executive Compensation.
Other directorships: NYSE Euronext, Inc.; and The Asia Pacific Fund, Inc., a closed-end registered investment company traded on the New York Stock Exchange.
Age 68.

Susan Ness
Susan Ness
Principal, Susan Ness Strategies, a communications policy consulting firm.
Board committee: Nominating and Public Responsibility.
Other directorships: J. William Fulbright Foreign Scholarship Board; Vital Voices Global Partnership.
Age 63.

Neal Shapiro
Neal Shapiro
President and CEO, WNET.org.
Board committees: Nominating and Public Responsibility; Transformation.
Other directorships and trusteeships: American Public Television; Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE); and the Board of Trustees, Tufts University and the alumni board of Communications and Media Studies program, Tufts University.
Age 53.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: DaveB on December 24, 2012, 05:49:59 PM
Partial list of the gun haters. Some of them have nothing on the internet and own no property. Or they are living under a corporation.


Marjorie S Magner
103 Village Park Dr
Buffalo, NY 14221 (716) 626-1926

Marjorie Magner
15 Ezekills Holw
Sag Harbor, NY 11963 (631) 725-5967

______________________________________

Gracia C Martore

No address or phone

Works at NYSE

______________________________________

John E Cody
89 Sayre St
Buffalo, NY 14207 (716) 873-8063

__________________________________

Howard D Elias
Totally unlisted

Works for Post Advisory Group Llc

________________________________

Arthur H. Harper

Unlisted

Works for Monsanto

__________________________________

Susan L Ness
44 Partridge Run
Amherst, NY 14228 (716) 689-1756


Susan Ness
249 28th St
Lindenhurst, NY 11757 (631) 225-1243

_____________________________________

Neal B Shapiro
300 Central Park W #18
New York, NY 10024 (212) 580-6295


Neal B Shapiro
535 3rd Ave
New York, NY 10016 (212) 686-3029


Neal Shapiro
300 Central Park W
New York, NY 10024 (212) 873-5886
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: DaveB on December 24, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
Forgot the big one!

 Michael R Bloomberg     
17 E 79th St   
New York, NY 10075   (212) 772-1081
   

Michael R Bloomberg     
909 3rd Ave 15th   
New York, NY 10022   (212) 772-1081
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: unfy on December 24, 2012, 08:32:09 PM
That's kinda handy for evil doers.

If I was a criminal, it's nice to know that a house might or might not have a firearm in it to protect themselves.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: FarmerRick on December 25, 2012, 10:21:22 AM
Pretty sure the bad guys in New York are not monitoring the NFOA forum for potential victim lists... 
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: UPCrawfish on December 25, 2012, 11:28:43 AM
OHIO, in 2004, passed Concealed Carry legislation.  Since then the number of legal permit holders exceeds 250,000.

The original legislation allowed news organizations access to the CCW database.  They wished to 'compare the list of permit holders to those listed as committing crimes'.  It did not take the news folks, who had an agenda, long to decide that it was in the 'publics best interest' to know who was carrying a firearm so they published the list in major Ohio newspapers.

There were lawsuits filed - lists of all newspaper editors and reporters personal data published - and in 2007, the legislature changed the law to access authority to 'viewing' only and in 2011, added the requirement of a court order to obtain any data base information.  Needless to say, those in the news business were quite upset with the tables being turned on them.

It's going to take a lot of effort on the part of New York  residents and firearm owners to overturn this practice. 
(some information from the 'Ohioans For Concealed Carry website)   
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: D1sclaimer on December 25, 2012, 06:52:36 PM
City ordinance
Can you please explain to me how shooting a pea through a straw with your mouth constitutes a firearm with Lincoln city municipal code's definition of a firearm?

Quote
Firearm; Defined.
For purposes of Sections 9.36.100 and 9.36.110 of the Lincoln Municipal Code, “firearm” shall mean any weapon which is designed to or may be readily converted to expel any projectile by action of an explosive or frame or receiver of any such weapon including, but not limited to, any pistol, revolver, shotgun, or rifle. (Ord. 18158 §3; April 7, 2003).

http://www.lincoln.ne.gov/city/attorn/lmc/ti09/ch936.pdf (http://www.lincoln.ne.gov/city/attorn/lmc/ti09/ch936.pdf)
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: Dan W on December 25, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
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Can you please explain to me how shooting a pea through a straw with your mouth constitutes a firearm with Lincoln city municipal code's definition of a firearm?


Not a firearm per se, but still an illegal discharge of a projectile

9.36.050 Discharge of Weapons and Other Instruments Unlawful.
It shall be unlawful for any person, except as provided in this chapter, to fire or discharge, within the corporate limits, or on any property of the City of Lincoln outside of the corporate limits, any air rifle, toy pistol, toy gun, slingshot, or any other air, gas, or spring operated gun, weapon, apparatus, or instrument for the purpose of throwing or projecting missiles of any kind by any means whatsoever in such a manner as to endanger the safety of persons or property, whether the instrument is called by any name set forth above or by any other name.
(Ord. 15625 §5; July 9, 1990: P.C. §9.28.040: Ord. 9382 §2; January 22, 1968: prior Ord. 3489 §9-103; July 6, 1936).
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: GreyGeek on December 26, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
I  wonder if the "The Journal", in  the interest of fairness,  would publish the names of their  city police officers who carry concealed weapons while off duty., along with the names of other local , state and federal  agents  who  carry off duty?   

Of course they wouldn't, and they know why.  It would put those agents at risk, just  as it puts civilians with legal CCW permits at risk.   So, their  exposure of all CCW permit holders (and they do not know if such  holders even carry or still own guns, or not), is a cowardly attack on the  safety  of citizens obeying the laws.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: HuskerXDM on December 27, 2012, 06:58:44 PM
And I thank you, Sir.



Not a firearm per se, but still an illegal discharge of a projectile

9.36.050 Discharge of Weapons and Other Instruments Unlawful.
It shall be unlawful for any person, except as provided in this chapter, to fire or discharge, within the corporate limits, or on any property of the City of Lincoln outside of the corporate limits, any air rifle, toy pistol, toy gun, slingshot, or any other air, gas, or spring operated gun, weapon, apparatus, or instrument for the purpose of throwing or projecting missiles of any kind by any means whatsoever in such a manner as to endanger the safety of persons or property, whether the instrument is called by any name set forth above or by any other name.
(Ord. 15625 §5; July 9, 1990: P.C. §9.28.040: Ord. 9382 §2; January 22, 1968: prior Ord. 3489 §9-103; July 6, 1936).

Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: abbafandr on December 27, 2012, 07:02:26 PM
Somebody has their heart in the right place :laugh:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-retaliates-against-paper-that-published-gun-owner-addresses-by-creating-interactive-map-of-its-employees/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/blogger-retaliates-against-paper-that-published-gun-owner-addresses-by-creating-interactive-map-of-its-employees/)
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: wallace11bravo on January 01, 2013, 11:12:04 PM
All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to stand by and do nothing.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/breaking-putnam-county-clerk-refuses-to-release-pistol-permit-holders-info-to-journal-news/ (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/01/robert-farago/breaking-putnam-county-clerk-refuses-to-release-pistol-permit-holders-info-to-journal-news/)

If you are so inclined to send him a thank you: countyclerk@putnamcountyny.gov


The quote from the original article in the Journal News: (I will not link to such a publication)

Quote
Told of Freeman’s determination, Ball, in a statement, said, “The county clerk has my full support to protect these law abiding citizens and if The Journal News thinks they can intimidate Putnam, they are sorely mistaken. Before I waver, the egghead editors at the Journal News can kiss my white, Irish behind.
Title: Re: Newspaper posts map of every pistol permit holder in county
Post by: Mudnrox on January 06, 2013, 09:46:48 PM
Inmates are now using the list to threaten the guards

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/ (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/04/law-enforcement-latest-critics-on-public-display-gun-owner-data-officers/)