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General Categories => Newsworthy => Topic started by: unfy on February 07, 2013, 10:39:57 PM
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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html)
Two women who were shot by Los Angeles police in Torrance early Thursday during a massive manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer were delivering newspapers, sources said.
The women, shot in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue, were taken to area hospitals, Torrance police Lt. Devin Chase said. They were not identified. One was shot in the hand and the other in the back, according to Jesse Escochea, who captured video of the victims being treated.
It was not immediately known what newspapers the women were delivering. After the shooting, the blue pickup was riddled with bullet holes and what appeared to be newspapers lay in the street alongside.
And for those not aware of the current situation in Cali:
Local, state and federal authorities are involved in a massive search for Christoper Jordan Dorner, 33, a former Los Angeles Police Department officer who is believed to have threatened "unconventional and asymmetrical warfare" against police in an online manifesto, and was suspected of shooting three police officers, one of whom died, early Thursday in Riverside County.
Dorner also is suspected of killing a couple in Orange County earlier this week.
WHAT THE F|_|CK ?
Yes, purposely evaded word filter.... cause... honestly....
WTF ?!
WTF WTF WTF ?
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NYPD sprays pedestrians late last year killing a bunch of people for no reason.
Now we have two Cali women being shot for no reason and their truck riddled with holes.
Seriously. WTF ?
And then there's the Jose SWAT murder in TX mentioned in another thread.
It's a terrible time to be in law enforcement, I'd be afraid of being lynch mobbed by people due to all the b.s., even if you're an upstanding LEO.
edit: 'weapon sprayed' -> 'truck riddled with holes'
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I realize now that this post was rather off topic (for NFOA).... apologies. Was so dismayed that had to share it heh. Might be better suited in the 'non gun stuff' forum topic.
I still hate to think how things turned out if one of the women was armed and defended themselves...
But as is...
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I realize now that this post was rather off topic (for NFOA).... apologies. Was so dismayed that had to share it heh. Might be better suited in the 'non gun stuff' forum topic.
Hey buddy why are you apologizing for?.... no need, don't you know were all family here I sure us have this mindset of understanding and say the samething, were small but still family here after all we are bound by commonality and this drives us most of the time in the same direction
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Hey buddy why are you apologizing for?
What I'm apologizing for: Bad form.
Appreciate the wuv though <3
edit: clarified 'bad form'
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Damn I knew LAPD hated the News but ....
I count over 30 holes in the back of that truck.
At the very least if those officers are not Fired over being Gun happy
they need to fire their trainer ....
They can't hit the broadside of a Barn at 10 paces
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pretty piss poor policework if you cant tell a Nissan Titan from a Toyota Tacoma...
66bigblock
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Or a BLUE truck(victims) from a GRAY truck(perp).......... ???
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The cops deserve to be executed, not promoted as they will be.
I wonder why people don't respect them any more? Could it be that they are more of a legal thug gang than law enforcement now?
These women should be set for life, but Cal. can't afford the lawsuit so it will be tossed out of court.
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this Still keeps reminding me of that Line from the (1980) Movie Flash
The Emperor Ming asking
Klytus!......Are your men on the right pills?..........Maybe you should execute their trainer!
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Regardless of the major mistake made by LEO's, calling for their execution is not going to be allowed on this forum, so take this as a warning. There will only be one :angry:
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The cops deserve to be executed
Just got home from a relaxing day out.
This is way overreaction :(.
Discharged, criminal charges, and obvious civil suit - yes. What you're calling for is way cross the line.
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Over the line indeed. That post will be picked out of so the tens of thousands to malign 2A folks as nut jobs.
The police malpractice is a severe example, but there are many similar ones. The two NY cops who shot a murderer also acted in haste, probably out of fear of their own lives, and ended up spraying the crowd with bullets, injuring 9 innocent people. They were fortunate that none died.
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I am certain we all would have difficulty in a situation where we expect someone to be shooting back. I don't envy LEO's at all that way.
I this case, I do wonder how the officers determined the need for deadly force. Are there hulls on the ground by the police driver door? A change of firearms? Can also imagine that as one officer began to fire, the other simply joined in. Considering all the differences in what may have defined the suspect they were hoping to find it is odd they simply rolled up and started making holes. No situation control? No cause for returning fire? Effort to aquire the target?
I know I will now have greater fear than a traffic fine when I see the next police vehicle.
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They interviewed these two gals attorney.... you know he "ran over his grandmother" chasing their ambulances..... $$$$
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So....I just saw a picture of their truck and the back of the vehicle was riddled with bullet holes. I'm no police officer, but it sure seems to me that even a suspect wanted for murder can't just be shot while in the car. I would think he'd have to actually make a threatening move such as pointing a weapon at an officer. Sounds to me like the LAPD is out of control.
I'm not usually one to advocate litigation, but I hope these two women own the City of Los Angeles when this is over.
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Unfortunately, owning the city just means higher taxes for everyone else.
How do you recover from not being able to trust the people who protect and serve?
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(http://i49.tinypic.com/s629oz.jpg)
66bigblock
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ALSO, it is now being reported that the US is using drones to try and track Dorner down. At first I read it on the "looney" sites, so I figured I was just being paranoid as usual. (disclosure - I am one of those looney people to, so I can call infowars, zerohedge, reddit, the blaze, gizmodo etc. looney!) Anyway, it is now being reported on MSN that the US is using US based drones to try and track Dorner in an attempt to keep him from fleeing the USA. No word yet on if they will use a drone strike to neutralize him...
(Unless you count his truck being burned to a cinder a possible drone missle strike...)
66bigblock
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So....I just saw a picture of their truck and the back of the vehicle was riddled with bullet holes. I'm no police officer, but it sure seems to me that even a suspect wanted for murder can't just be shot while in the car. I would think he'd have to actually make a threatening move such as pointing a weapon at an officer. Sounds to me like the LAPD is out of control.
As I said elsewhere:
They look like the .mil ….. they are armed like the .mil …… and are quicker on the trigger than the .mil…… ARE NOT IN A WAR ZONE …… and yet see themselves as stuck in an endless Low Intensity Conflict, in which there are 3 sides (Cops, Robbers, and Everybody Else). I dunno exactly what this is a recipe for, but it not going to be very palatable, whatever that turns out to be.
Sounds to me like the LAPD is out of control.
This is new(s)? Look at them. What do you see? A Police Force, or a Paramilitary Organization?
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How do you recover from not being able to trust the people who protect and serve?
I don't know about the "serve" part, but they have NO obligation to do the "protect" part:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0)
Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
By LINDA GREENHOUSE
Published: June 28, 2005
WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation.
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I have immense respect for police officers in general. LAPD, not so much. They've proven time and time again that they're corrupt, mismanaged, and brutal. I'm sure there are plenty of good officers on that force, but there are enough bad apples that they ruin the whole basket. They obviously have a shoot first mentality, and that is absolutely unacceptable. If I as a civilian had done that I would be rotting in jail for the rest of my life.
What really gets me about this case is the whitewashing by the media. This murderer posted an ultra-liberal manifesto online that has been all but ignored. If he leaned to the right you can be sure they would be trumpeting about the right wing extremist on the loose. Since he's a leftist he's just a madman, though, and his political views are ignored. Add to that the almost nonexistent coverage of LAPD's trigger happiness and something really starts to stink.
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Ran across this blog with some more interesting photos...........
http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2013/02/wanted-dead-or-alive.html (http://smallestminority.blogspot.com/2013/02/wanted-dead-or-alive.html)
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If it wasn't horrible and sad I maybe could wrap my mind around this. They are not warriors but weenie's putzes pansy's and all the things I'm thinking ...... :( :angry: :'( I'm probally headed to Hell!!!!!
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-usa-california-cop-idUSBRE91A11B20130215 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/15/us-usa-california-cop-idUSBRE91A11B20130215)
Body's been identified.
The remains, charred beyond recognition, were removed from the burned-out ruins of a mountain cabin where Christopher Dorner, 33, made his last stand on Tuesday in a deadly shootout with authorities that ended with the cabin going up in flames.
Medical examiners used dental records to conclusively determine that the remains were those of Dorner, the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department said, bringing to an official end an exhaustive search for the former Los Angeles police officer who was fired in 2008.
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Updated:
Women's settlement with LAPD in Dorner case worth $4.2 million
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-women-shot-millions-20130423,0,1713238.story (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lapd-women-shot-millions-20130423,0,1713238.story)
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Updated:
Women's settlement with LAPD in Dorner case worth $4.2 million
Would have almost been cheeper to give everyone (who didn't already have one) in the LA area a Gun and a box of Ammo.
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OOPS!?
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Well, the LAPD had immediately said they were going to replace the truck, then renegged on that... and now there's the $4.2M settlement. I wonder what the LPD, OPD, or BPD would do with $4.2M ....
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I wonder what the LPD, OPD, or BPD would do with $4.2M
Maybe it's better they not have that money. Who knows what they were salivating to buy ... Light armored vehicle with machine guns and grenade launcher, armed quadcopters, mortars, ...???
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Maybe it's better they not have that money. Who knows what they were salivating to buy ... Light armored vehicle with machine guns and grenade launcher, armed quadcopters, mortars, ...???
I, for one, have a tiny bit more faith in our local PD's :).
Although, the OPD has $69M in payroll for ~1000 folks.
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more faith in our local PD's
So do I. Most LEO are very nice and respect the Constitution and the rights of citizens. NYC cops, on the other hand, are a different kettle of fish. Ditto for LA. Probably Chicago, too.
Shortly after I left Englewood to attend college the South Denver PD branch was arrested, all of them, for burglary. Their MO was to claim they got a break-in report, block off both ends of a street on which their target business was located, park a van or truck in front and under the pretext of searching for clues and confiscating evidence they'd load the van with all the valuable stuff and drive off. They'd ask around to see if there were any "witnesses" to the alleged break-in to make it look like they were investigating.
My brother related this to me and wasn't sure how they got caught. but it had something to do with a pawn shop owned by the owner of the stores seeing someone bring in some stuff that was stolen from his other store... etc... IIRC, there were over a dozen cops who were tried and sent to prison.