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Title: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on March 24, 2011, 06:00:08 PM
Approved 3/17, I mailed it on 12/18.  Looks like it's time to start assembling parts for my new SBR!
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Chris Z on March 24, 2011, 06:50:03 PM
About 100 days....... Dang. Lets see, mine went in on 2/22 and was cashed on 3/9...... So I am guessing June if I'm lucky?
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: RobertH on March 24, 2011, 08:54:09 PM
sweetness!!!

whats your upper/lower going to be?

im still waiting for the serbu.....
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on March 24, 2011, 09:48:42 PM
sweetness!!!

whats your upper/lower going to be?

im still waiting for the serbu.....

Spike's lower, with an MOE stock.  I'm building my own upper with a 6.8 SPC White Oak 12" barrel and MOE handguards.  It's a carbine length gas system but the handguards are mid-length, so they'll come almost to the end of the barrel.  I have a YHM front sight/gas block that will be used only for a sight and for holding the handguard retainer in place.  The real gas block will be a low profile unit under the handguards.

Not sure what I want to use for a muzzle device yet.  AR15 Performance makes a knock off of the BattleComp for 6.8.  It's a lot cheaper than a real BattleComp, too.  I'm leaning towards using that, or one of their tunable compensators. 

I went with 6.8 because I had convinced myself I needed a new deer rifle anyway, and I may get the opportunity to go hunt pigs in Texas one of these days.  6.8 out of a 12" barrel should be good out to 200-250 yards, which is the outer limit of where I would feel comfortable taking a shot at a deer anyway.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Wesley D on March 24, 2011, 10:55:27 PM
Sweet! F1s seem to have quicker turn arounds than F4s. Who was your examiner?
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on March 25, 2011, 06:40:37 AM
Sweet! F1s seem to have quicker turn arounds than F4s. Who was your examiner?

Jason Frushour. 

What's funny is for a while I was reading suppressors on Form 4's were turning around a lot quicker than SBR's and SBS's on Form 1's.  I guess it varies.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Burnsy87 on March 25, 2011, 11:14:04 AM
Nice, good for you.

Sent mine the week before Christmas, they finally cashed the check January 19, so well see.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Wesley D on March 25, 2011, 11:28:25 AM
Jason Frushour. 

What's funny is for a while I was reading suppressors on Form 4's were turning around a lot quicker than SBR's and SBS's on Form 1's.  I guess it varies.

I checked nfatracker.com and see that many examiners do both F1s and F4s, so now I'm thinking it has more to do with which examiner you get, how efficient they are, and how many forms they have ahead of you sitting on their desk. My check was cashed 14 weeks ago...  ::)
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Burnsy87 on March 26, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
Nice, good for you.

Sent mine the week before Christmas, they finally cashed the check January 19, so well see.

Ha, got mine today.

Approved March 7.. ATF must have walked it here.

I want a few copies of this.. do I have to have a full copy for the "present if ATF agent asks for it" stuff?  Or can I make it smaller?  Or does it just need to be the stamp thing they put on?
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: RobertH on March 26, 2011, 04:14:08 PM
the peeps at ar15.com say keep the original in a fireproof safe and make a lot of copies and keep it with the firearm at all times.  i made a straight copy, just black and white.  the ar15.com peeps have made smaller copies that fit in, lets say an AR15 SBR pistol grip.  that way, they also have a copy with the firearm.  just make sure you can read it clearly.

if the ATF needs to see the real one, i know exactly where it is.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on April 08, 2011, 05:49:59 PM
The last part just came in.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/bkoenig1975/IMG_1648.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/bkoenig1975/IMG_1650.jpg)

Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: RobertH on April 08, 2011, 05:55:02 PM
well i got two things:

1. that is sexy as hell.

2. with the gov't shut down, you kinda got lucky, but it has been approved for a bit.  too bad my Serbu still isn't here.  :(
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Burnsy87 on April 09, 2011, 09:05:47 PM
The last part just came in.

(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/bkoenig1975/IMG_1648.jpg)
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg215/bkoenig1975/IMG_1650.jpg)

Good stuff man.. that a NiBo BCG?
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on April 10, 2011, 07:30:07 AM
No, its just a standard YHM.  When it comes to bolts there are a few places that sell them for the 6.8 but I hear most of them are made by the same place anyway.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Hardwood83 on April 20, 2011, 03:04:04 PM
I am interested in an SBR but not sure it's worth it to spend $500+ on just the trust preparation. So am leaning toward a home-brew, but want to make certain it's solid, of course. Did those of you who have gone the trust route 'DIY' or have an attorney prepare it? If you did it,  did you include any NFA specific language?
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Burnsy87 on April 20, 2011, 04:16:55 PM
I am interested in an SBR but not sure it's worth it to spend $500+ on just the trust preparation. So am leaning toward a home-brew, but want to make certain it's solid, of course. Did those of you who have gone the trust route 'DIY' or have an attorney prepare it? If you did it,  did you include any NFA specific language?

Talk to Rob @ www.Exeter-arms.com  He's a member here too, not sure how often he gets on.  He helped me with mine, and I'll use him again when I have the $$ for the suppressor I want.

http://exeter-arms.com/class_3_purchase_process  Great page on his site.

Once I get my Aimpoint, I'll post a pic of my 12.5" AR.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: RobertH on April 20, 2011, 07:28:05 PM
I am interested in an SBR but not sure it's worth it to spend $500+ on just the trust preparation. So am leaning toward a home-brew, but want to make certain it's solid, of course. Did those of you who have gone the trust route 'DIY' or have an attorney prepare it? If you did it,  did you include any NFA specific language?


Rob charges a one-time fee of $50 to make a trust.  you can take it to a lawyer for a second opinion, if you want.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: JimP on April 23, 2011, 03:03:26 PM
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Ha, got mine today.

Approved March 7.. ATF must have walked it here.


HA! They must have low crawled: They can walk guns all the way to Mexico in less time than that!
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Wesley D on April 23, 2011, 06:25:32 PM
HA! They must have low crawled: They can walk guns all the way to Mexico in less time than that!

Zing! +1 for Jim!
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Burnsy87 on April 23, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
HA! They must have low crawled: They can walk guns all the way to Mexico in less time than that!

Ha, good one.


Ugh...
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on April 24, 2011, 08:09:41 PM
Well, the new gun is having some problems.  It's not ejecting rounds properly.  All the rounds extract fully from the chamber, but about 1 out of every 5 fail to eject and end up staying in the ejection port.  At first I thought maybe it was a gas system problem and I might have to enlarge the gas port, but I tested it by loading 1 round in the mag and firing.  It locked the bolt back on the empty mag each time I tried that, and that's supposed to be a good indication that the gas system is ok and you're not short stroking.

The ejector seems like it has plenty of tension, so I'm actually wondering if it's a problem with the extractor.  Compared to the BCM bolt in my other AR, this extractor seems like it has a lot less tension.  My theory is that the extractor isn't holding on to the case rim tight enough, and it's falling off the bolt before the ejector has a chance to fling it out of the port.  I just ordered an extractor spring upgrade kit from BCM, so hopefully that will take care of it.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: David Hineline on April 27, 2011, 01:56:13 AM
CLEO signoff in Omaha is not a problem, no reason to set up a trust unless you have a reason.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Wesley D on April 27, 2011, 05:14:36 PM
[...] no reason to set up a trust unless you have a reason.

For example, if you wanted it to be legal for both you and your spouse to possess the item(s) independently as trustees - because it wouldn't be legal for your wife to possess (e.g. take the item to the range) without you if it was in your name individually. 
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on April 27, 2011, 06:10:58 PM
For example, if you wanted it to be legal for both you and your spouse to possess the item(s) independently as trustees - because it wouldn't be legal for your wife to possess (e.g. take the item to the range) without you if it was in your name individually. 


My wife keeps saying "I own an NFA item!" and I keep telling her, "no, the TRUST owns an NFA item."
 ;D
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: bkoenig on May 14, 2011, 08:55:46 PM
Ok, got all the kinks worked out and it's running well now.  I replaced the extractor spring with a BCM upgrade kit and that solved my ejection problems.  The extractor wasn't holding tight enough to the rim for the ejector to pop it out of the port.  After fixing that I started noticing problems where the bolt sometimes wouldn't strip the next round from the mag.  I did some research and found out that the C-Products 6.8 mags are crap.  You have to tweak the lips on them to get them to feed right.  After bending the lips up it runs correctly now.  I'm going to buy some quality mags and save the C-Products for range use only.  Unfortunately the best 6.8 mags are from PRI and run about $40.  D&H is supposed to be coming out with some in the next few weeks so I'll wait for them.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Chris Z on June 27, 2011, 05:06:28 PM
Got my SBR stamp today. mailed it in on Feb 22nd, received it back two weeks ago so I could cross off one little thing, and now the final came back today.

Too bad I don't have my upper/barrel assembly yet. Spikes Tactical is pitiful.......... Pretty sad when the ATF is faster than a manufacturer.
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: RobertH on June 27, 2011, 07:29:30 PM
pics or it didn't happen.   :)


im still waiting for the Serbu.....   :'(
Title: Re: Got my stamp!
Post by: Wesley D on June 27, 2011, 08:38:52 PM
Got my SBR stamp today. mailed it in on Feb 22nd, received it back two weeks ago so I could cross off one little thing, and now the final came back today.!
So you're saying you're now officially into the hobby of stamp collecting - of the $200 flavor?  :P