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General Categories => Carry Issues => Topic started by: farmerbob on May 20, 2014, 09:19:04 AM
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Gun Control Group Asks Chipotle To Ban Guns After Open Carry Event (UPDATED)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/05/19/gun-control-group-asks-chipotle-to-ban-guns-after-open-carry-event/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/05/19/gun-control-group-asks-chipotle-to-ban-guns-after-open-carry-event/)
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http://news.msn.com/us/chipotle-dont-bring-guns-in-our-stores (http://news.msn.com/us/chipotle-dont-bring-guns-in-our-stores)
I don't know about the rest of you all, but it seems like a loss to me.
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i go to chipotle once, maybe twice a week. i saw "updated" and was hoping for something positive.
where am i missing the point of the OP?
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Has anyone gone to any of the local stores to see if they have put up No Defense Zone signs?
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Another Victory for Open Carry! (100% pure sarcasm!!!)
What they were doing is technically open carrying. I can't see any other outcome for what they did then what they got. So it must of been a victory for these MORONS!!!
The complete idiots that carry there AR15s & AKs to prove a point are hurting are cause.
I wonder how many are being paid to do so with Bloomberg's billions???
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I wonder how many are being paid to do so with Bloomberg's billions???
now there is something I had never thought of, how many of these are plants. by the looks of these 2 guys, im not sure I even want them carrying weapons
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Must be nice to be part-time 2A supporters! This is Texas the is no open carry of a sidearm. One can only carry concealed after jumping through the hoops like a trained puppy to get government permission. If a Texan wants to carry without a note from Mommy this is the only option they have. So according to some 2A Rights should be denied to anyone that does not carry in the manner you approve of. Whose side are you on?
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The list just continues to grow of gun friendly business that we used to be able to carry in that no longer allows carry of any kind because of a few trying to prove a point.
I guess I carry for protection of self and family. Not in your face for the cause of putting up more no gun signs.
The right way to support 2nd amendment would be give to gun rights groups not scaring hoplophobes.
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Must be nice to be part-time 2A supporters! This is Texas the is no open carry of a sidearm. One can only carry concealed after jumping through the hoops like a trained puppy to get government permission. If a Texan wants to carry without a note from Mommy this is the only option they have. So according to some 2A Rights should be denied to anyone that does not carry in the manner you approve of. Whose side are you on?
I don't think anyone is talking about OC of a sidearm in a holster.
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The list just continues to grow of gun friendly business that we used to be able to carry in that no longer allows carry of any kind because of a few trying to prove a point.
I guess I carry for protection of self and family. Not in your face for the cause of putting up more no gun signs.
The right way to support 2nd amendment would be give to gun rights groups not scaring hoplophobes.
Sometimes you have to take a step or two back in order to gain some forward momentum.
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I'm all for open carrying when done right. I guess there must be a few bad apples in every bunch. The problem is we don't need to give the gun grabbers more ammo to use against us.
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That is their only option. I guess they should just give up. I can't believe Texas is so backwards on this.
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I think Texas has some bigger problems to worry about. I heard somewhere that Hispanic population will be the majority in a few years and they vote around 75% for Democrats.
California may have better gun laws in 10 years than Texas.
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I'm all for open carrying when done right. I guess there must be a few bad apples in every bunch. The problem is we don't need to give the gun grabbers more ammo to use against us.
Selective support of the 2A = My way or the Highway.
At what point will it be understood that it doesn't matter how much ammo we give or NOT give the gun grabbers. They have an agenda that they will keep pressing until they get what they want.
Again since there is no open carry of a handgun in Texas the only option for anyone wanting to provide protection for them or their families without a permission slip from their nanny is to carry a long gun. You then would deny them the Right to Keep and Bear Arms because it doesn't fit your ideals.
Tell you what: Back in the day I was a bad apple, a numb nuts or what ever else you want to call me and thousands of people in Ohio, Virginia and many other states. If it were not for those in your face demonstations you would not have what you have today thank you very much. Now when it comes time to stand up and make another statement too many of you Johnny-come-latelys want to hide under the bed.
You have no problem taking advantage of the work done by those that came before you, but forbid that you have to man the frontline and to hell with those that are willing to do so.
Yup, sure, yesiree you sure are a big supporter of the 2A (as long as it doesn't offend your delicate sensibilities).
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^Thank you for you life's work. Well stated. ^
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Well see I told you there would be a few who called this a victory. I only wish I was kidding. Tom Gresham has worked in gun rights for over 50 years and he surely he has done way more for the cause then either one of you yet he has no problem seeing things like this for what they truly are.
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Besides open carry is legal in Nebraska. These stunts only hurt our rights in Nebraska, I can't speak for Texas.
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People that say they support the second amendment but not fully are a bigger irritation to me than the antis. Example: "I hunt but nobody needs a semi-automatic weapon or a thirty round magazine."
I am sure when a few brave souls threw some tea in the Boston Harbor that it was unpopular and viewed as extreme by those who feared reprisal. Not every step is going to be forward but will take us where we need to go.
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I'm sorry but if I saw this where I was eating I would go to code red grab my family and try to make an exit and hopefully they wouldn't make a move forcing me to pull.
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I'm sorry but if I saw this where I was eating I would go to code red grab my family and try to make an exit and hopefully they wouldn't make a move forcing me to pull.
Hmm.....
What would you do if they all were open carrying handguns?
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"I hunt but nobody needs a semi-automatic weapon or a thirty round magazine.
The 2nd. Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Never has and never will.
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this is chipotles response "“We support the Second Amendment but we also need to feel safe and secure in the places we take our children."
well, i want my child to feel safe in school when that time comes. i don't feel safe, them being in a gun free zone.
sorry, it seems that these anti's are being let to run-a-muck.
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"I hunt but nobody needs a semi-automatic weapon or a thirty round magazine.
The 2nd. Amendment has nothing to do with hunting. Never has and never will.
Um, that was my point. That position is the same as yours. You are for the part that you like.
Again- What would you do if everyone was open carrying handguns?
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It's sad we can protect money and members of the government with firearms but something as precious and defenseless as our children they have to go it alone.
The last few attempts at school shootings were cut short by someone with a gun. I wish the anti's would wake up and see the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. What's the first thing they do in case of a shooting but call a bunch of good guys with guns. The answer is crystal clear. Get rid of all gun free zones.
I'm sorry but the hell with you if you think you should have the rights to post no gun signs.
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I think if you can buy it, you should be able to carry it. The society we currently live in with recent events make carrying of long guns in public a taboo.
I'm all for open carry of handguns. I seen a friend of mine doing it at convenience store and I gave him a big two thumbs up. I only wish I had the cajones to do it.
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I think if you can buy it, you should be able to carry it. The society we currently live in with recent events make carrying of long guns in public a taboo.
It will stay taboo if nobody does it and pro2A folks don't support it. Glad that you realize that.
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The only option for a Texan to legally carry a firearm without mommys written permission is to open carry a longarm.
This is so offensive to some supposed gun Rights supporters that they insist that some of their fellow Americans forego the ability to protect themselves or their families.
How dare you tell someone they have no Right to bear arms in the only legal way they can?
Not only that you call them names and mock them while paying lip service to the 2A.
"They must not exercise their Right to bear arms because it may be detrimental to me."
"If they can't conform to my definition of the 2A they should not be allowed to carry. Don't you see it is all about me and only me."
"If I don't like the way they are exercising my 2A Right I will draw on them."
If it were not for the in your face actions they would not have CCW in Ohio and some others states.
Texans have been trying to work within the system for years to no avail.
Of course everything is okay with the world as long as everyone conforms to your definition of the second amendment.
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My understanding of Texas concealed carry rights from listening to Armed American Radio is they are better than Nebraska's. I don't think Texas will ever have open carry with examples of what not to do like this. Nebraska's carry rights just took a hit because of this stunt. And it caused Bloomberg to have a wet dream. I guess we will just agree to disagree.
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Hey I carry with mommies little permission. I feel that might of been a insult to everyone with a chp.
Of course you know what the answer is. It's called constitutional carry.
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I'm sorry but if I saw this where I was eating I would go to code red grab my family and try to make an exit and hopefully they wouldn't make a move forcing me to pull.
Not sure what you mean by "go to code red" but my awareness level would certainly be elevated if someone walked into a restaurant with an AR or AK slung over their shoulder. However, I wouldn't necessarily "grab my family and try to make an exit". A major component of situational awareness is gauging behavior. As an example, many IED's are detonated utilizing cell phones. Does that mean one should go "code red" every time one sees a cell phone? Of course not.
It is unfortunate that Chipotle has come out "... in support of the Second Amendment, BUT ...." On the flip side, unless they install proper signage there is no reason to stop carrying if you decide to eat there. If they install a defense-free zone sign, then I'll stop eating there as it will be far more dangerous than it was while the 2A open carry protesters were there with their AR's and AK's.
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My understanding of Texas concealed carry rights from listening to Armed American Radio is they are better than Nebraska's. I don't think Texas will ever have open carry with examples of what not to do like this. Nebraska's carry rights just took a hit because of this stunt. And it caused Bloomberg to have a wet dream. I guess we will just agree to disagree.
It is offensive that we have to get training and background checked and pay a fee to exercise our right. Why? The criminals don't. You were close when you said "I believe if you can buy it, you can carry it. "
I am pretty chapped that I have been fingerprinted 5 times in five years, repeated background checks, random drug/ alcohol tests just to earn a living and exercise my rights. I have yet to even be accused of a crime and have to tolerate being treated like a criminal in waiting. The more we tolerate it, the further they push it.
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Yes agree to disagree.
I guess you do not understand that no matter what we do Bloomberg and others will continue to do what they do. Go lock your guns in the safe and hide under the bed and it won't make one stinking difference to them. They will still come for you and your guns.
Years ago it was was Handgun Inc. Then it was the Brady Bunch. Then it was the Million Commie Mommies. Now it is Bloomberg.
Absolutely nothing you do or don't do will ever change that. The sooner you realize that the better.
"I'm a responsible gunowner crap go after those that aren't doesn't fly with these people."
I agree that anyone should be able to exercise their Right to keep and bear arms in any manner that is legal.
You disagree.
Can we also agree then as to whose side your on?
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Believe it or not I'm 100% on your side.
These are rights are forefathers enjoyed and through the 2nd. Amendment guaranteed for eternity. Over time they have been slowly eroded away. I as others believe we can get them back one battle at a time.
I think actions like these bypass the battles and go right to victory. Instead of celebrating we get set backs and more restrictions.
Of course I've been wrong before.
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We have fewer rights, or more hoops to jump through to enjoy our rights, but we do have a few modern conveniences to somewhat make up for it.
Their version of a shopping mall was a musket shooting at anything they could build a fire under.
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What could have possibly been gained by the sloppy Fat Guy & Boy Blunder posing for pics with their rifles inside a fast food joint?
I am all for a demonstartaion of rights when there is a possible gain...in this case all there was is another national story & add a place on the list of anti gun establishments....
Everyone that I know that is not extremely pro-Gun, would not feel comfortable eating a burrito while these idiots pose for pictures with weapons that may be loaded...
I personally have no problem with it. I would be a little shocked because I have never seen anyone in any restaurant with an AR/AK...
I also don't see how someone is 'against the 2nd amendment' by not blindly supporting EVERY action taken by EVERY single person no matter what....As ling as it is legal.
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^^^^^^^ I second this^^^^^^^
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It would interesting to see how a CHP holder might react to a couple numb nuts walking into a local eatery bearing long guns unaware of some organized publicity...I know my General Quarters bells would be chiming....and looking for an exit or the ladies powder room
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This isn't about the 2A. Your rights are only enforceable against the government. A private property owner can ban carry on their property. I understand a company doing this when a group of idiots do things as idiots do.
We need the rest of the people on our side, even if they aren't gun folks. Stuff like this only hurts us.
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uG3uKABOE (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uG3uKABOE)
I found this to be an accurate representation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
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Ok maybe it's about the 2nd. Amendment. But still worth watching.
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This isn't about the 2A. Your rights are only enforceable against the government. A private property owner can ban carry on their property. I understand a company doing this when a group of idiots do things as idiots do.
We need the rest of the people on our side, even if they aren't gun folks. Stuff like this only hurts us.
Yes, I totally agree. I am 100% in favor of legal open carry, and I think we need to educate proprietors about why they ought to be concealed carry-friendly, but don't be a jerk to entrepreneurs by going into their shops to hold political demonstrations.
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Yes, I totally agree. I am 100% in favor of legal open carry, and I think we need to educate proprietors about why they ought to be concealed carry-friendly, but don't be a jerk to entrepreneurs by going into their shops to hold political demonstrations.
+++++ 1 (being a business owner myself....)
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http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uG3uKABOE (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f1uG3uKABOE)
I found this to be an accurate representation of the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Great video, I'll embed it so it is easier to watch.
http://youtu.be/f1uG3uKABOE (http://youtu.be/f1uG3uKABOE)
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We should all send this to Chipotle if they post their properties.
http://www.concealednation.org/2014/05/video-restaurant-employees-assaulted-during-armed-robbery-at-restaurant-with-prominent-no-guns-sign/ (http://www.concealednation.org/2014/05/video-restaurant-employees-assaulted-during-armed-robbery-at-restaurant-with-prominent-no-guns-sign/)
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Um, that was my point. That position is the same as yours. You are for the part that you like.
Again- What would you do if everyone was open carrying handguns?
http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/hostedemail/email.htm?CID=20560642698&ch=82297D220DC3DA832A72B04A65AA7DD0&h=377cd478062bce9ef7a659e90fb6837a&ei=s88297LNX (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/hostedemail/email.htm?CID=20560642698&ch=82297D220DC3DA832A72B04A65AA7DD0&h=377cd478062bce9ef7a659e90fb6837a&ei=s88297LNX)
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http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/05/dine-and-duck-at-these-no-gun-restaurants/ (http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/05/dine-and-duck-at-these-no-gun-restaurants/)
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I decided to go to the Mothers Demand Action web page to see if I could see what makes these people tick. They are some very warped and misguided individuals.
They blame guns for everything and are exactly what we can look forward to if HELLery Clinton gets elected. I recently watched an interview where the old witch said people had no reasons to have firearms in restaurants and movie theaters.
I'll bet the old badillac would would get rid of the 2a if she got the chance. >:D
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Another thing I think needs to be addressed about open carrying of long guns in public venues is and maybe more realistic than saying that it is a "taboo". A holstered oc sidearm is considered to be defensive, take it out in public now the panic begins as it starts to be considered to be a offensive weapon.
Walk into a restaurant with a AR the general public looks at it being used as a offensive weapon.Law enforcement officers with holstered weapons don't gather any attention and put the people at ease. Take the same officers put them in swat gear with ARs strapped to their chest and now everyone senses are heightened because it looks like the s##t is about to hit the fan.
Of course whats nice about CCW is you blend in and no one is none the wiser and if the s##t hits the fan your not the first target to be eliminated.
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Amazing! Gun Rights people denying the Right to bear arms of fellow gun owners that are forced to carry in the only legal way they have without getting a permission slip from Mommy. we don't need the anti-gunners to drive the wedges to divide us. With this holier than thou attitude we are doing it to ourselves.
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Hey! I'm right there with you if something is to be gained from it.
It's seems more like hitting ones thumb with a hammer and it hurts like hell and doing it again and expecting a different outcome.
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Gunscribe,
I'm no more for taking away someone's right to bear arms than I assume you are in favor of eliminating private property rights.
Of course Texas should change their laws, but that's a different discussion. Look up the pictures of these guys. If they walked into a business I own, I'd be telling them to leave as well. That is not depriving them of their rights anymore than someone's first amendment rights are violated by being banned from an internet forum.
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Gunscribe,
I'm no more for taking away someone's right to bear arms than I assume you are in favor of eliminating private property rights.
Of course Texas should change their laws, but that's a different discussion. Look up the pictures of these guys. If they walked into a business I own, I'd be telling them to leave as well. That is not depriving them of their rights anymore than someone's first amendment rights are violated by being banned from an internet forum.
I never said they couldn't or shouldn't be asked to leave. Since this is about Texas how in the world can it be a different discussion?
I am just sick and tired of the "If you can't do it the way I do it or approve of they you don't need to be doing it attitude."
There is just too many people that want to hide under the bed hoping they can maintain what we have rather than standing up on their hind legs and fighting to take some back.
"Oh please be quiet", they say, "Don't rattle the sabers they might try to take what little we have left."
"Lets stick our heads in the sand and maybe they won't notice us."
Concealed carry did not get passed in Nebraska because we hid under the bed. Some of you that haven't been around that long haven't got a clue what it took to get this in places like Arizona, Ohio, Wisconsin, Virginia and yes Nebraska.
There are no positive gun stories to these people. Even in the most rightious of gun use stories the anti's see them as negetive and use them to push for more gun control. Even if there are no stories at all they make stuff up never ceasing to push for an outright ban on the 2A.
If we stop fighting and only whisper to each other, about how some gun owners are idiots, from behind our gun safes we will lose what some of us have worked to gain in the last 20 years.
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I don't think anyone is telling you or anyone what they can or can't do, rather just thoughts and ideas of what helps or hurts our cause. They're just opinions right or wrong.
I personally can't see a benefit to taking your AR into an eating establishment in order to show off for a photo shoot. You think its a great idea evidently. But I think you might be a little disingenuous if you think they were carrying for self protection reasons. I carry for self protection, and I don't stop for some live action shots in public with my firearm, not saying that you can't, mind you.
Just my opinions.
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"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are
the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are
equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate
that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms
everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we
need them every hour. "
-- President George Washington in his 1st address
to Congress
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I'm done with this thread!!! Feel free to keep arguing if you want. ;D
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My post above is one extreme, granted, this video is the other extreme.
What shows the gun folks are in control of their emotions, and futures?
We need to keep our heads about us, or it all unweaves.
http://youtu.be/hpcOvXNBDOg (http://youtu.be/hpcOvXNBDOg)
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"Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are
the people's liberty teeth keystone... the rifle and the pistol are
equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate
that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms
everywhere restrains evil interference. When firearms go, all goes, we
need them every hour.
"This is a false quote, but bits and pieces of it still continue to crop up from time to time. Even national publications, such as Playboy magazine, have been snared by it. (Playboy published the "quote" in December 1995 as part of an article entitled "Once and for All: What the Founding Fathers Said About Guns". After consulting with an assistant editor of the George Washington Papers at the University of Virginia, Playboy published a lengthy correction in March 1996.)"
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html (http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html)
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"This is a false quote, but bits and pieces of it still continue to crop up from time to time. Even national publications, such as Playboy magazine, have been snared by it. (Playboy published the "quote" in December 1995 as part of an article entitled "Once and for All: What the Founding Fathers Said About Guns". After consulting with an assistant editor of the George Washington Papers at the University of Virginia, Playboy published a lengthy correction in March 1996.)"
http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html (http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html)
Great, what's next, Santa is a myth ? Hard to trust anything these days.
I heard the cherry tree and returned dime were made up also.
Seems everything involving government is made up. As time rolls by, the level of deceptions grows larger.
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"Gentlemen...I implore you to take everything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt" - Benjamin Franklin to the 2nd Constitutional Convention
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If the 99% saying is not attributable to the fine gentleman, that does not change the statistic that most guns are in good hands.
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"Gentlemen...I implore you to take everything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt" - Benjamin Franklin to the 2nd Constitutional Convention
Now THAT'S funny right there. I don't care who you are.
Fly
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/27/texas-gun-activists-scrub-videos-after-shaming-from-restaurant-customers-youre-a-dumbss/ (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/27/texas-gun-activists-scrub-videos-after-shaming-from-restaurant-customers-youre-a-dumbss/)
It looks like more no guns signs are in the works. What would we do without these guys?
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If you look past the immediate negative reaction, you should be able to see that it eventually leads to great progress. Stop looking at what is right in front of you and try to imagine what is over the horizon. If people saw these things more often, they wouldn't be so skeered when they did. By attempting to appease the unappeasable, your rights silently slip away. Sometimes you have to hurt some feelings along the way. Exercise them or lose them. It IS up to us to keep our natural right of self preservation.
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To be clear, all was well until the antis complained, not the general public.
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With idiots like this on our side who needs enemies?
(I'm talking about the AR in your face morons)
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I do understand fully what your talking about, although I bet you can't list one thing we have gained from these actions. The negatives just keep adding up.
Can you tell me what is to be gained by giving gun owners a negative image in the public's eye?
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People are talking about it. Change for the better will happen, that is a plus.
A few, ahemm, "gun supporters" will realize that any stance that includes "I support thr 2nd amendment but..... " is not supportive. We continue to allow the antis room to divide us and until we all get in the boat and row in the same direction, we will not get very far.
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First, even if I agreed with you this was a second amendment issue, the adage that just because something is legal doesn't make it right applies.
Second, I support the second amendment. No "buts." It simply doesn't apply to private property owners who are free to ban idiots from their property.
By your logic, I should be furious that some business owner won't let people come into their businesses, pop open a laptop, and start streaming hardcore pornography because there's a first amendment.
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Um, no. I fully support the business's right to ask people not to carry there. You got lost somewhere.
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There's a huge difference in the right to put up no gun signs and having the law backing them.
I think everyone would agree that private property owners should have the rights to put up signage.
No gun signs should not carry any more weight than a sign that says no shirt no shoes no service.
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No gun signs should not carry any more weight than a sign that says no shirt no shoes no service.
For the property owner, wouldn't a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign carry the full weight of the law if the business refused to serve someone due to their dress? Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.
Fly
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Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.
Fly
Businesses do have the right. Unfortunately, the law isn't always correct in acknowleging their rights. Sound familiar?
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For the property owner, wouldn't a "No shirt, no shoes, no service" sign carry the full weight of the law if the business refused to serve someone due to their dress? Businesses DO have the right to refuse service to anyone they see fit.
Fly
Agreed they have the right to refuse service and ask someone to leave. You hardly ever see anyone getting a misdemeanor and have the threat of losing ones rights for not wearing shoes.
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And the last time I looked the Constitution doesn't guarantee one's rights to go shirtless and shoeless, so why do you get asked to leave or put them on, but exercise a right, you're looking at a ride downtown in a police car.
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I do understand fully what your talking about, although I bet you can't list one thing we have gained from these actions. The negatives just keep adding up.
Can you tell me what is to be gained by giving gun owners a negative image in the public's eye?
Bob, I guess you haven't read one single word I have written. Ohio, Virginia and to a smaller extent right there in Nebraska.
In Ohio a large number of open carry folks were arrested and harassed just prior to CCW.
It took 10 years for CCW to be enacted in Nebraska. In the year prior to CCW being passed a number of individuals open carried to illustrate that was the only legal option. Yes, it had an effect. The legislature decided that if people wanted to carry guns then they were going to have a say about when and where.
In Virginia it only takes personally knowing VCDL members of reading the organization website for the history of CCW and open carry in that state.
That is only three. The internet is replete with lots of other examples.
As far as Open Carry and CCW everything you have was gained by those that took a stand risking harassment and arrest. Not just in Nebraska either. When you take your note from mommy to lots of other states you are enjoying the fruits accomplished by 2A activists all over the United States.
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^Like^
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Bob, I guess you haven't read one single word I have written. Ohio, Virginia and to a smaller extent right there in Nebraska.
In Ohio a large number of open carry folks were arrested and harassed just prior to CCW.
It took 10 years for CCW to be enacted in Nebraska. In the year prior to CCW being passed a number of individuals open carried to illustrate that was the only legal option. Yes, it had an effect. The legislature decided that if people wanted to carry guns then they were going to have a say about when and where.
In Virginia it only takes personally knowing VCDL members of reading the organization website for the history of CCW and open carry in that state.
That is only three. The internet is replete with lots of other examples.
As far as Open Carry and CCW everything you have was gained by those that took a stand risking harassment and arrest. Not just in Nebraska either. When you take your note from mommy to lots of other states you are enjoying the fruits accomplished by 2A activists all over the United States.
Here, here! Bravo! I concur 100%